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the greatest retail/hub concept ever?
Posted to: <Ned> Front Porch by chris macrae (22), Sun, 23 Mar 2008 04:15:17 PST
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what could this be?
you can hear me now 2.0 is a world leading contender- and certainly quite a jump up from being a mobile kiosk lady (Grameen's previously most value multiplying villager franchise):
how about a rural telecentre that mixes all of the following info services: banking agri info centre egov services (so you dint have to go to the city for 6 months to get a licence to do business) telecommunication hub meeting place training centre internet hub school medical clinic
all franchises expected to pay back their loan by month3 as per true social buseiness modelling -http://www.ned.com/group/communi ty-general/news/168/
FROM GRAMEEN CEO TEAM We're only circulating the presentation to individuals and companies who can support in the form of Grant, Investment, Sponsoring few centers. Like GS may support us to promote female entrepreneurship. So, all of their funds will be used to build GrameenSolutionCs and ownerships will go to educated, unemployed females.
So, if you feel any company or individual would like to be part of this venture to develop entrepreneurships in developing countries, please feel free to forward. And, let us know the prospects.
guess interested ned-members will tell me if they feel they may be prospects of prospects
By Jeff Mowatt (29), Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:11:33 PST
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The rural telecentre concept is familiar Chris, as you'll know. So do I read that Grameen wants investors to sponsor multiple telecentres who can expect to be paid back in 3 months?
I presume this will be in Bangladesh where licencing laws are compatible with the project. When you say ownership goes to educated unemployed females, do you mean that they'll be selected from villages which can demonstrate and high levels of education to take ownership of the telecentre on behalf of the village?
By chris macrae (22), Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:33:40 PST
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Sustainability , open franchise replication: my understanding, from albeit just a 1 hour conversation in Bangladesh with Grameen Solutions CEO, is that Grameen has worked out a minimum revenue base before each telecenter starts - some of this comes from egovernance where previously rural to go to cities to register stuff that grameen will take a distributed contract on
DIGITAL DIVIDE ownership: this is probably the next generation of grameen mobile telephone kiosk lady; a lot of restructuring is going on in this industry in 008 with major positive impacts for Grameen
MOON RACE: people who do not see urgent sustainability crises as media and education challenges that citizens must-need unite round now are in my mind ostriches with their heads in the sand, or worse! in general yunus has exposed banking models as not investing in human productivity in ways they could- perhaps media could be argued to have even worse compound record on this issue- how say folk? rewind the tv generation by 45 years, was it inevitable that mass media had so little productive content? rewind the web to tim berners lee's specifications - have we realised 10% of what his open blueprint had hoped; in fact think of what was achieved with collaborative/team computing with eg the race to the moon in the 1960s; bite for bite, person for person how many other human-computer-team projects have "produced" up to an order of magnitude of comparable creativity and goal accomplishment this did? why not?
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8778204628 SOCIAL BUSINESS DOLLAR endless recycling unlike charitable dollar's one-time use: is this unique to Bangladesh- well this is one of the big debates: Yunus attitude is hopefully not in terms of opeing of visions of internet companies and media coverage of what's possible http:///rowp.tv ; however when you look not just at grameen but other grassroots up networks like BRAC, Bangladesh has a critical mass for grassroots that many countries dont have- Clinton goes as far as saying this grassrots pattern is driving bangla's 7% economic growth
debate: just as other Base of pyramid explore sectors that have never yet reached half the world, clearly big internet companies haven't done much in their first 20 years for half of the planet http://wholeplanet.tv ; so there is a huge future capitalism opportunity in this area - eg Gates and Yunus are certainly looking at applications in china as one example; and Yunus encourages open source wherever he can ;
however I suggest this also comes back to how concerned people in big cities everwhere demang collaboration knowledge sharing; if we have rural centres asking questions on what open source solutions do we have to health, water, agriculture pronlems directly posed from the grassroots we have potentially a new dynamic that could be the beginning of the ned of the global down NGO ; the waste caused by some of this breed of system in the way it has spent public funding is something that many transparency experts wish to see end yesterday!
if in Uk we could get eg the bbc to wake up to this big conversation- representing questions from half the world whose voice its barely represented directly (how little coverage has microcredit had on BBC!) then 21st c world service could change the world -back in 1984 after nearly 40 years of editorials at The Economist, it was my dad's forecast that human sustainbility would depend on eg BBC playing exactly such a role NOW! http://www.normanmacrae.com/netf uture.html#Anchor-Changin-27687
By Jeff Mowatt (29), Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:50:02 PST
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Chris, Something interesting came up today, with a critique of Jeff Sachs' new book from Bloomberg:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne ws?pid=20601088&sid=a0n113ye 8SVM&refer=home
I thought it was worth pointing out to the journalist that through leveraging broadband deployment to generate revenue, it needn't be a Marshall Plan of handouts, and that in fact such a plan had already been written.
To my surprise and unlike any experience of the BBC, he responded immediately expressing great interest.
In fact as far as the BBC goes, my effort to raise the profile of social enterprise in international development was so alien, they removed what I'd written from their Citizens Avtion Network, deeming it inappropriate for UK consumption.
While we were developing our own rural telecentre strategy paper, I approached Cisco for advice on wireless networking options. In the end I got good advice, but boy was it a mistake to start of the conversation with their nonprofit group, and then convince them I wasn't begging for a donation.
By chris macrae (22), Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:08:37 PDT
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Jeff- thanks you - had not heard before of sachs new book
here are a few not necessarly compatible wonders
1 yes the idea that we could end poverty for ever with what the US army burns annually is the kind of conversation every decent citizen should be raising anywhere we can
2 it is a bit of irony that Sachs should be epicentre to this debate- many of us feel his villager research while worthy is also the most expensive possible way of doing it
3 I suspect that while logic says we could end poverty within the us army's budget, there may be a wobbly that just as we end one type of poverty we start another conflict or sustainability failing system spinning. I dont think that the change of mindset towards meta-collaboration required is primarily a monetary thing. Indeed Indian teachers advise me it comes for nothing if you design it into the primary curricula. We just havent come to grips with using email and real world communications in the most collaborative of both world's ways rather than the opposite.
In effect the gameboard we are mocking up at http://egrameen.com -preparing for the 6 deep discussions we need to bring life critical degrees of separation down to zero on once 10000 villager telcentres are hooked up to the www - may be the link beyond money that we need to communally practice
By Mark Grimes (214), Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:26:13 PDT
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The top Amazon review of the book, fwiw...
24 of 41 people found the following review helpful:
Disappointing, March 24, 2008
By Robert D. Steele (Oakton, VA United States) - See all my reviews.
I wrote a rave review on the author's earlier book, The End of Poverty: Economic Possibilities for Our Time and eagerly anticipated this book. It has been a real disappointment. Only the foreword by E.O. Wilson kept me from setting it aside entirely.
As someone who reads broadly and sees with increasing dismay the insularity of citation cabals, somewhat arthritic communities of practice, and a tendency to ignore diverse perspectives, I was immediately annoyed by this book's failure to respect Lester Brown, Herman Daly, Paul Hawkin, C. K. Prahalad, and J. F. Rischard, to name but a few. The author does not appear to have read the High Level Threat Panel Report of the United Nations, and his over-all presentation, while accurate and erudite, is also dense, narrow, and of dubious implementability.
This is a book of, by, and for economic geeks. It is not a book for normal people. Below, in descending order of priority, are better books for the general reader, which is to say, equal or better coverage, easier to understand, with better over-all structure. Medard Gabel's book "Seven Billion Billionaires" is not out yet, so I point to his lead article and post his brilliant cost image above. Where to find 4 billion new customers: expanding the world's marketplace; Smart companies looking for new growth opportunities should consider broadening ... consultant.
An article from: The Futurist High Noon 20 Global Problems, 20 Years to Solve Them The Future of Life A More Secure World: Our Shared Responsibility--Report of the Secretary-General's High-level Panel on Threats, Challenges and Change 2007 State of the Future Plan B 3.0: Mobilizing to Save Civilization, Third Edition
If you are steeped in the literature and care deeply about the details, then this book is an absolutely essential reference, and for that reason receives four stars.
The author opens with "Humanity shares a common fate on a crowded planet." Early on he says that sustainable energy could be achieved for 1% of world income. He believes Asia will be the economic center of gravity in the future (assuming this includes India, I agree).
He identifies six key factors for the near future:
- Convergence
- More people, higher incomes
- Asian Century
- Urban Century
- Environmental Challenges
- Poorest Billion
He loses one star, apart from failing to honor the real pioneers including Herman Daly, father of Ecological Economics: Principles And Applications, for overly general platitudes about global collaboration, technology, saving Darfur as if anything he lists was possible, and generally neglecting so many factors and metrics as to leave me wondering where the book was going.
He does well in itemizing the importance of the anthropocene, which tends to be neglected by many, listing impacts on land, water, carbon, nitrogen, plants, birds, and fisheries. The loss of amphibians and pollinators (e.g. bees) is noted.
He lists seven climate change impacts:
- Rising ocean levels
- Habitat destruction
- Increased disease transmission
- Changes in agricultural productivity
- Changes in water availability
- Increased natural hazards
- Changes in ocean chemistry
These are all important, but I am distressed to see no reference to Blue Frontier, Blue Death, or Water: The Fate of Our Most Precious Resource. This confirms my unease--this is a brilliant man with a great deal of influence who is out of touch with a number of very significant observers whose intellectual contributions cannot be ignored in a work such as this.
Coming back to Darfur, one recommendation he makes with which I totally agree, is the value of introducing cell phones and cell towers to the high-risk areas. I wrote to the CEOs of both Nokia and Motorola about such an initiative a year ago, and never received a response. They do not seem to appreciate the reality that cell phones, like razors, should be given away, and the transactions monetized instead ("sell the shave, not the razor").
He makes five points about the US that are certainly serious, but as one who has read Joe Nye, Jonathan Schell, Chalmers Johnson, Noam Chomsky, Ralph Peters, and so many others, I see the following five points as the equivalent of a teen-age driver lecturing on highway safety:
- Limits of military power (see Nye's Paradox of American Power)
- Wars of identity (see Peter's Wars of Blood and Faith)
- Drivers of violence (see UN High Level Threat Panel above)
- Foreign Assistance (see O'Hanlon, Half Penny on the Dollar)
- Real Security (proliferation, environment, failed states--ho hum)
The chapter on global problem solving was entirely reasonable, and I worry that I am communicating too harsh a sense of the book. If you are a geek and have time on your hands, by all means buy this book. Otherwise, read my reviews of all the others, and then buy Rischard's book and spend time at the Earth Intelligence Network (all free).
He says the public sector should
- Fund basic science (never mind the Republican war on science)
- Promote early stage technologies (never mind Monsanto's seeds of death or the Transylvanian Dracula patent system designed to retard human progress by locking up new stuff so the legacy stuff can continue to sell)
- Create a global policy framework for solutions (see Earth Intelligence Network and the ten threats, twelve policies, and eight challengers, see especially the EarthGame(TM) as devised by Medard Gabel who helped Buckminster Fuller create the original analog World Game)
- Finance the scale-up of successful innovations and technologies (huh?)
No mention of the public sector's most important role in creating a social environment that is stable, orderly, and healthy, so that citizens can be educated and gainfully employed while exporting goodness.
He suggests the private sector has two core responsibilities besides making a profit (at our expense, see comment below on true costs):
- Investing in R&D, often with public funding
- Implementing large-scale technological solutions in partnership with the public sector
Hmmm. No mention of Green to Gold, Sustainable Design, Services Science, identification of "true cost" for all products and services, etc. There is an entire planet of literature relevant to this books purpose that does not appear here. I respect the author and his accomplishments, but at this point in the book I am exasperated.
The not-for-profit sector has five key roles, per the author:
- Public advocacy (perhaps public education would be a better term)
- Social entrepreneurship and problem solving (good)
- Seed funding of solutions (but not willy nilly--has anyone heard of the concept of a creating a Global Range of Gifts Table for each of the ten threats across each of the twelve policies, with amounts from $10 to $100 million, such that individuals--80% of the giving--can select items directly, and Civil Affairs and NGO individuals all over the world can "call in" peace targets to the Table?)
- Accountability of government and the private sector (see the Peter G. Peterson Foundation and what David Walker will be doing there--that is a first-class endeavor)
- Scientific research, notably in academic institutions (where we should be emphasizing very low cost licensing to the governments of India, South Africa and others, and burying the profiteering pharmaceuticals and the predatory seed companies).
The author follows the above with a global funding architecture that is not persuasive and that would not satisfy my colleagues from the Office of Management and Budget.
The book ends with a limp, suggesting eight steps individuals can take:
- Learn
- Travel
- Join
- Community (face to face)
- Social Networks (online)
- Workplace
- Live personally (Gandhi: be the change you want to see in the world.)
My bottom line: this book is not ready for prime time. It is dense, disappointing, and it will never be read nor understood by the kinds of people--less E.O. Wilson and George Soros--that have real power over the $1 trillion in charitable giving, the $1 trillion in spending on war instead of peace, or the $1 trillion in corporate and government and other foreign assistance.
I challenge the author to post a one page summary suitable for a President, and a one-page spending plan that addresses the ten threats and twelve policies that I list below for the convenience of the Amazon shopper:
TEN THREATS (LtGen Dr. Brent Scowcroft and others on High Level Threat Panel of the United Nations--in order of priority)
- Poverty
- Infectious Disease
- Environmental Degradation (includes climate change and warming)
- Inter-State Conflict (we spend $1.3 trillion on waging war)
- Civil War (often occasioned by corruption and our support for 42 of the 44 dictators on the planet--see Breaking the Real Axis of Evil: How to Oust the World's Last Dictators by 2025
- Genocide
- Other Atrocities (kidnapping for body parts; kidnapping dumb cute girls from Connecticut that go to "movie auditions" alone)
- Proliferation (no mention of small arms, the real weapon of mass destruction: the USA sells five times more weapons to the rest of the world than the UK, three times more than Russia--and the worst proliferators of nuclear, biological and chemical are the five permanent members of the UN Security Council. Reality check, anyone?)
- Terrorism (a law enforcement problem, not even close to the casualties from automobile accidents in the US alone)
- Transnational crime ($2 trillion against the US $7 trillion, and getting worse--they have better intelligence, encryption, computers, and wages than any government force)
The twelve policies, based on an EIN study of the last 5 presidential election "mandate for change books":
- Agriculture
- Diplomacy
- Economy
- Education
- Energy
- Family
- Health
- Immigration
- Justice
- Security
- Society
- Water
Last but not least, the author, who is without question one of the very highest experts in his narrow chosen domain, appears out of touch with the literatures on collective intelligence and on the wealth of networks. I will mention only one book (there are others, including one now free at EIN on COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE: Creating a Prosperous World at Peace). See my favorite, Yochai Benckler's The Wealth of Networks: How Social Production Transforms Markets and Freedom.
I am going to end with a harsh thought: As much as I admire Columbia University, as much as I see the possibilities for the United Nations, what I sense in this book is that the author is deeply entrenched in a pyramidal systems of systems, and is still in the "command and control" top-down elites rule mode. Common Wealth is not going to be orchestrated by the New York mandarins--it is going to be created by We the People, using Open Money, boycotting all products and services whose true costs are externalized (e.g. Exxon did not make $40 billion in profit--they externalized $12 in costs to the earth for EACH gallon of gas they sold--one will not find that fact in this author's book--he might not be invited back to the high table).
See for instance (Amazon limits me to ten links, sorry): Infinite Wealth by Barry Carter (the first real visionary)
Wealth of Networks by Tom Stewart
Revolutionary Wealth by Alvin and Heidi Toffler
Group Genius by Keith Sawyer
Wikinomics by Don Tapscott
Then there is the sustainability and ecological economics literature:
Seven Tomorrows by Paul Hawkins
Green to Gold by by Daniel Esty and Andrew Williams
Natural Capitalism by Paul Hawkins
Ecology of Commerce by Paul Hawkins
Capitalism 3.0 by Peter Barnes
The Philosophy of Sustainable Design by Jason McClellan and so on....
Argh. Annoying. I expected so MUCH more. I expect some negative votes. There are those that simply cannot stand to be told they have missed a big part of the diversity answer. As we used to say in Viet-Nam, "Sorry 'bout that." It takes ALL of us, SHARING and creating COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE from the BOTTOM UP, to create Common Wealth. This book is certainly accurate as far as it goes, well-intentioned, but looking through the wrong end of the telescope.
By chris macrae (22), Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:32:04 PDT
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well actually that makes me want to buy the book- there is obvously quite a lot of topics we need to develop awareness of if we as citizens in the richer half of the world are to understand the daily challenges of the world's poorest villagers- the systems they are in
I both agree and disagree with this reviewer- he seems to have his own very definite perspectives against which he is judging everyone and the rhythms of the world; ironically I believe Jeffrey is a bit like that; however if one views the books journey as seeting up issues we need to debate as oposed expecting it to deliver answers, it would seem vaut le voyage; if anyone else gets this book please tell me so we can form a bookclub
By Mark Grimes (214), Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:16:53 PST
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