I have information from the recent survey in Gulu to put up member profiles like this one: http://www.ned.com/group/nedugan da/ws/kipwolajoycegulu/

Tell me what you think of that profile, by the way, in terms of it's potential to be a new tool we use for bringing the beneficiaries closer.

In Kampala we've got a group of American university students who will be coming in to help with the survey starting Nov 7, so will be getting these written profiles for Kampala members and children by the end of this year.

More on amounts later

The profile is good, especially the profiles of the children. What is lacking for my needs is the family history. I have been talking to so many people, in fact a lot of people are probably sick of me talking about Uganda, and the thing I have learned is that most people want to know what happened. They would ask me about this profile what happened to the husband? Was he killed in the war, did he die of Aids, or another illness? Does she have aids? Did her co wife die of Aids? Does she live in an IDP camp?

These kind of facts told as a story really seem to have some impact on the decision to help the children.

On a personal note I have a question that may seem strange but I have to ask it. I know that things have drastically changed in Uganda over the last 4 years since I lived there. Back then 270,000/= would have been more than most of the people I knew in Kampala made. Has the cost of living in Gulu raised so much that this amount of money cannot even provide a home for the children to sleep in? Or is there something that I am missing. The children have no clothes to speak of, no shoes and cannot sleep at home or go to school. Could you give me some type of idea what expenses they have that eats up the entire income? I am certainly not questioning their poverty but I think I need to know this in order to explain it to others here.

Evvy Bryning said:

Back then 270,000/= would have been more than most of the people I knew in Kampala made. Has the cost of living in Gulu raised so much that this amount of money cannot even provide a home for the children to sleep in? Or is there something that I am missing.

You know, I was working up an example with the texts that had been prepared by volunteers and didn't take the time to really look at the survey information for this person. No description of Joyce herself had been prepared (only the children) so I lifted that description from a loan application several months old. LiA production activities may have had a lot to do with her total income at that time. The survey indicates less than shs100,000 in household income during the month of July, and HIV is active in the house.

This is so good and will really help the children get back to school.

This is a packaging I came up with to sell a packet of 6 bracelets with the proceeds going to the school fee fund. Sorry the picture is not better, I took this with my phone. I will take a better pic at home and exchange it.

Evvy, This is great,designed for the sales and marketing,keep it up.it is iteresting,some of our community,have also started practing how to make the paperbeads hand bags i will put te photo on line too.

Thanks George. Actually some in Kampala last year made hand bags from beads. We only got about 8 to try and sell and the sold out immediately and were very popular. Your group might want to contact the members in Kampala to see what they made.

What we are planning is to start uploading the new products on line. which I think will start by the start of December. Our community members are still sampling those new items which were not on our production list of items.

Evvy Bryning (52), Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:50:19 PDT What else should be included besides the actual fee?

At the moment the most important things is the school fees though we also have other things for making child study easy. Which includes:

DAY SCHOOL Two pairs of uniforms. One pair of shoes A school bag School pullover Pens and books Lunch fees Medical Fees One pair of stocking

BOARDING SCHOOL Aschool bag School uniform one pair Shoes and sandle one pair Book and pens Medical fees One pair of bed sheet One Matress One box Tooth paste Two bars of soap A besent One pair of stocking Two kilograms of sugar.

ADDITIONAL ITEMS FOR GIRLS ON BOARDING Lady care (pads) Baithing soap Tawel Under ware Jelly (body lotion) NB. This is to safe guard our girls from temptation of Sugar dadies gifts.

FROM GULU-NORTHERN UGANDA

Well Evvy, so sory realy for staying for long without responding to your questions. This was due to some sickness that attacked me for the last one month

Right as per your question on school fees programes ( cost of school fees for one child), this depends on the schooling programe that the child has.

Some children are for boading and some do walk daily from home to school. Those who are on boading every thing is paid at the begining of the term . There is no feeding cost for such a person and no transport cost on parents . The only transport would be from the fist day of going to school and the last day of coming back home.

For a person who is for day programe, important things like transport (Bisycle), lunch fees are required. I will come back later with the list of requiements .

For the number of children, Gulu has 100 children and Kampala has 100 kids to.

Concerning Stories of members, The 22 years old lasting northern Uganda war has left a lot of impacts to every home( Families)

Every family (Home) might have lost a member either being killed by the LRA rebels Died with Land mine accident or died of HIV/AIDS. As a result, the number of dependants and orphans are high that a single parent can not afford to pay their school fees and provide their basic needs as well. For example you may find that a man has been killed, died with HIV AIDS or had a landmine accident, The children belonging to such persons now stay with the realative.

The parents now have the bardens of renting houses wihin town for safety which is also expensive since the income percapita for a person is also very low that can not meet all those yet the cost of living is rising up day and nights.

More still , Each an every member who is satying within town has an IDP camp to. Parents then tend to travel between town and villages (IDP Camps) when the security situation calm down so that they can get accsess to grow crops for feeding the family.

This situation has made the cost of paying school fees , medical bills , renting and providing basic needs for children very high that parents can not afford.

Looking at all the above gives a ground for a child to be assisted since the guidiance can not provide all what the child is supost to have.

The happy part of my life in this world will be after seeing this Lia double orphant (without mother and father) going back to school in feburary 2008. To make them also feel as they are not left alone in the community, for their struggle in life. This will help uganda community in solving problems like:, Making full stop to the war in northern uganda, It make this children after 10 years to support themselives,It reduces new recruitment of robbery people because this children will be having what to do after their study, Improve the standard of living of the community people, It eradicate illetracy out of the society etc. The above are some of the importance I am seeing in Life in Africa struggle toward school fees programme.

I have some ideas,the numbers of the street children is increasing and some children are sighted sleeping in the varandors in town but the night commutors centres have been closed and they are nolonger in direct working for the children ass it was,I believe if LIA USA could include this category of children in their programme it would really have helped the additional vunerable though they are not connected to LIA members but because they can not afford to go to school and eat meals good or bad but its wholly really hard to get.(this is if LIA USA) has capacity then this will be a group of children to think of.

I can't imagine many organisation operating in northern Uganda paying school fees but still this children are left out.I believe if with time the capacity would ,then these category shoud not be left out. Many children under the age of 7-15 are many on the streets in the morning they are already on the street.with this situation what kind of generation do we think they will be like in the next ten years if we don't move them from where they are?With this good programmes of school fees I think it will be of aresource to let them enjoy the services thoug its also abit confusing because the government have the UPE programmes but still this children can't be in school?totally confusing but as I said eatrlier,if Lia USA will have the capacity then they should consider these children.

I am so glad that though there has been a lag in the transition, the survey has been going on and am sure by early January those in kampala will be completed and the remaining bit in Gulu will also have been completed, this will enable us do selection for the priority children who hopefully will have to begin school in early February when the new school year will begin.We are hoping that this shall be one of our first programs to take off in Feb, if all goes well.

we are busy organising the children for their first term start. which will commence on the 04/02/2008. we also need an update from the wE center kampala. I am so sorry for missing our mother from USA,plus Lia stuffs from WE center kampala. I was away to my home village, now I'm back.

Welcome back Okello - sorry we missed you. As soon as Evvy arrives back firmly in the usa we will be arranging for the transfer of funds. I am still working out how much we have raised from various sources so far. Robert has given me a list of the top 20 most vulnerable children in Gulu. This week I am focusing a bit on the related surveys and profiles, as well as the fundraising totals, and will let you know how things are looking.

Hi Christina,

I believe you might have left the list I gave you .

Try to check if not then I will send it very fast.

Say hi to all the kids in Kla esp Doughter and all , also happy new year to all the Lia members in Kla

Thanks

Hey, Can any one help me, I have drawn the estimate feeding budget for Lia for Kids weekend programe at we center Gulu and it is inform of table but when i try to copy and pest , the tables does not apear. How can I draw the table in Ned?

Robert, try sending it to me in a private message and I will see if I can help

Hello, Am very happy to see that these kids at last have joined school. At the begining it was like a dream to most of the members. When i was getting shcools for these kids it was a dream coming to pass. Am telling you these kids are so happy to see that they are in school. I paid their fees and lunch puls buying for them the requirements. One of them who is in boarding school We paid for his school fees alone beacuse his fees was more than we had for him. Per now all the six are in schools we got for them.

Hi, am so excited about any one putting in efforts to see it that kids are given opportunity to study. Education is a key to sucess. I appreciate that!, Robert and Wassa, i would love to meet you when you are in kampala to know more about your project. How many kids to have in both centers? Thanks evvy for your support.

I too like Jesca feel so excited that this program has at last taken off and am sure it will be one of the very promising ones.

Thanks Jesca and Robert for having put in the effort to see that it has happened.

In my observation, I have seen that Gulu might be in a better position to sponsor even more children, because according to what I found out there, for some of the children , they have already paid for two terms and were still planning to pay up to the end of the year at least for the three who are in primary schools , this then will give us more time to plan for more money for the secondary ones.

While in kampala things are always a bit tricky because school fees here sometimes becomes abit abnormal , but still they have also managed to send their six and bought all the requirements.

Really happy that this has been a very good start.

Fees depends on the school. First world schools charge between 400000-800000 per term.Second world school 200000-300000.