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SaltSpring Island Ned Board Meeting Notes

Posted to: Suggestions for Ned.com by Mark Grimes (181), Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:02:11 PDT
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<ned> Board Meeting and all were welcome to participate. In attendance: Evvy, Meron, Jackie, Sam Barlow (who agreed to take notes), Ellie Parks, Heather Martin-Mcnab, and myself. 2 (or so) great hours on a sunny Sunday afternoon. It was a great group too, in that Sam and Heather are rare visitors to Ned, and Ellie is very unfamiliar with o/net, Ned or the entire 3.5 year history...so it was a great balance of people. I'll start with the list of the initial nine things, then some random notes I took, and an action list of sorts.

  1. Better World Media Network

I'm working with Josh Friedman and we have formed a for-profit LLC business called Better World Media Network. We are working with "better world" oriented web sites and selling advertising/sponsorships space on their web sites to advertisers and ad agencies. 10% of monthly gross sales go directly into microfinance via Ned Foundation (being formed) and 55% of Ned revenue will be distributed back through the Ned community people/projects. Online advertising is going from 20 billion dollars this year to over 60 billion dollars a year over the next 4-5 years. One of the reasons I wanted to get ned.com to one million pageviews monthly is to provide regular revenue stream to favorite Ned community projects. One million pageviews at a $35CPM (cost per thousand) is $35,000 in monthly revenue. I strongly suspect BWMN will do over a million dollars in revenue in 2009, though not sure how Ned will factor into that (of course I could be off my nut regarding the numbers...but I gotta hunch)...the ad agency grew to over 7 million annual revenue in five years.

2. Ned Microfinance (MFI, workshops, schools, Alpha/biz/home party, biz/sales/marketing training) Interest: 1/4 admin, 1/4 more loan principal, 1/4 community projects, 1/4 principal/interest payback

Since April and May I've given 9 microfinance presentations to high schools in the Portland area. 15 minute talk, 15 minute video, 15 minute Q/A. Working with one student, and perhaps more to find ways to do other presentations to various businesses and organizations in the Portland area spreading the word about microfinance. There are some potential sponsorship and home party type potentials for revenue here. Would like to explore this further in the ned.com community and what that might look like.

  1. Ned Coop-ish Thingamajig (test 7/1/08 thru 12/31/08)

Ned needs some things done and needs to pay people to do some of those things. It needs graphic design work and some technology work to build out some new features on the site. Also noodled up some interesting ideas as to smaller scale projects and small work for hire jobs that could be done in emerging markets as well. The long at short of it is, Ned is going to test this idea out over a six (6) month timeframe (7/1/08 thru 12/31/08) and we'll evaluate it at the end of that time. Geographically created pay rates are all based on very conservative, very small per diems in any event. Ned will commit up to $18,000 USD in total capital during this six month evaluation timeframe.

So one technical person and one graphic designer will be hired and paid an initial monthly per diem rate of $250 USD each. If someone has solid experience in international grant writing, there would be consideration that for a position as well. In addition to that will look to hire for some very part time emerging market positions that will pay out at a rate of $25 USD per month. Positions will include; Ned staff photographers (we'll provide digital cameras, and photographers will be encouraged to find other ways to earn income with their cameras), Free Ned training sessions offered for no charge to local ngo/npo staff members (with associated generous commission rates (like 100%) if organizations purchase Ned private group access), other small part-time, flexible hours job ideas as well. Building and hosting small NGO web sites free or at very low cost. Peace Tiles coordinators? Open to ideas.

Very decentralized "staffing" with self reporting functions that are easy to see the results of and present back to the community online.

Now, if during the July to December test additional revenue comes in past the commitment I've already made, the $250 per month staff will go to $500 and the $25 per month staff will go to $50, and a new level of staff will be hired at the initial $250/$25 levels (all still part of the test that will be evaluated during the final month of December).

  1. Ned Better World Teams

Giving away money online to make good things happen has been interesting over the last four years, and in the community sense of giving away money...many of us share a very unique experience within the o/net community. Now when the Steve Case Foundation Parade Magazine America's Giving Challenge happened, it was thrilled that Atlas Service Corps and Scott Beale was on the receiving side of $50,000 USD. But, like the Razoo speed granting effect, I was still left feeling like the "biggest network" will and always does win...so went about noodling up what something very different could look like. Something without the biggest network always wins. Something without oodles and oodles of rules and complication. Fewest rules possible, failure (multiple failures) is an acceptable outcome. Succeed small, fail small, learn and redo. Wash, rinse, repeat. Not afraid to fail small and often. Big things can still happen...but let's all learn loads together without fear of failure or need of a net (and over planning/worrying). Get to the action. The result. Making good things happen. Let people on the ground decide what those good things that happen indeed are. So, when a Nedsters Makes the World A Better Place project is announced, it would look something like this.

  1. At the time of this announcement the team leader must be an existing Ned member.
  2. Taking a leadership role, anyone who wants to be a team leader recruits 5 new members/friends to Ned to be on your Make a Better World team (each team will have a leader, and 5 new members who are friends/associates/acquaintances).
  3. The first 10 teams to self organize become the official teams by signing up in a workspace at Ned.
  4. Each team spends 7-14 days talking about exactly what they will do to make the world a better place, what results will they expect, who on the team will be responsible for what, and how will they measure their efforts, and each team will be sent via Moneygram $250 USD to make the world a better place.
  5. A given timeframe will pass, and groups will hopefully report during their efforts on their better world team progress. A final very, very brief report of written results will be completed (50-100 words) and the Ned community as a whole will vote...based on their favorite result/outcome.

Well, you get the idea...sharpening feedback and ideas always welcome. Would like to get this going in early July as well.

  1. Ghana/Homowo/Ned - library, internet café, business incubator/innovation center

Been working with Susan and Obo Addy and Homowo to build a facility in Accra, Ghana ... and the first step in the process would be to tour the country with 10-16 people from Portland, Oregon during the first two weeks of November this year. 8 have committed so far, and we need a total of 10 to commit to make this a certain thing.

  1. Ned Goals (inside people/orgs and outside orgs Intel/Nike)

Aside from the Ned goals in my signature file, I don't have any other personal goals written, other than to help other people and organizations use Ned to help meet their goals. Outside organizations such as Intel and Nike have expressed interest in working with Ned, and are very interested in seeing how ideas 1-4 from above play out over the next few weeks and months. My goal is to make Ned a place that offers real help to real people, projects and organizations so they reach their goals.

Jackie and Meron both spoke very passionately and wonderfully about Ned, and more to the point...the Ned community of people and what we all mean to one another, our mutual support, caring and helping out one another. On many levels, given what we’ve all been thru, we have all started out in a very unique situation and have been thru some very challenging thing together...and know we can all deal with hardships, and still maintain the ability to move ahead in a positive way. Special people all around. Respectful. Caring. Wonderful.

  1. Ned Better World Island

Touched on this briefly. Jackie and Mark will need to connect and do something meaningful and not too overly complex. We'll keep in simple, yet with the ability to scale and bring in some additional revenue for Ned projects.

  1. The Giving Project

Since the PayPal problems happened (now fixed), all Giving Project monthly payments were permanently stopped. Before Niny left town, she just said to apply her payments towards web site hosting. I think some members would be interested in getting payments going again, but perhaps with certain projects or types of projects to choose from.

  1. Start-up package for <Ned> NameYourLocation

This was simply too late in the day to delve into, what with all the other things we talked about. Once there are some revenue generating models in place, I'll be much more comfortable exploring what a startup package might look like.

Okay, the notes above were scratched out...here things get truly scattershot out.

Ellie said something that resonated, well quite a few things...but that Ned is not a coop, but a collective.

Ned is friendly, but how do people dive in?

Expectation, hook, draw.

Ubuntu Management book was suggested as a good read

For social profit. We are for social profit. Profit for social good.

Real people doing real things to try to make a better world.

We need an environment of welcoming and connecting people to others.

Ask newcomers to post a comment or share something about themselves.

Five Minute Action Network, simple things people can do in five minutes one day to make the world a better place.

Problem, solution, action.

Power over, power to, power with, power within

Some people are entrepreneurs, some looking for work, some looking for sponsors, some looking to share wisdom.

On a Ned.com home page it would be good to have Ned News. More targeted Ned stories.

People connect to stories (and ideas), we really need to find a place where members can really get into sharing stories.

Would live chat on Ned be good or bad?

On the Ned.com home page it could be interesting to offer small widget type things for LiA, Partners for Others, Peace Tiles, The Emancipation Network, that would offer people something small to purchase, something small to give/donate (ala mini-action network), and some small action to take...so visitors choose from some things in which immediately and really make the world a better place.

Ned could be good to offer some users (many users?) ned.com email addresses.

Manzini is the name of the Children's Hospital in Swaziland that Jackie is going to be on the board of.

Volunteer Sector Knowledge Network (read, ask, share) http://www.vskn.ca/

People are asked to do one of four things: 1. collaborate, 2. give, 3. do, or 4. learn/share

Change Everything powered by Vancity http://www.changeeverything.ca/

UVIC African Partnership Network http://ring.uvic.ca/08mar06/afri can-partnership.html

Ellie shared a couple decision making techniques one of which is called "Fist-of-Five" or "Fist-of-Five". In this method each member of the group can hold up a fist to indicate blocking consensus, one finger to suggest changes, two fingers to discuss minor issues, three fingers to indicate willingness to let issue pass without further discussion, four fingers to affirm the decision as a good idea, and five fingers to volunteer to take a lead in implementing the decision

The other decision making technique is called dotmocracy. 1. An issue is presented with questions. 2. Discuss potential solutions. 3. Post proposals. 4. Fill dots to record opinions. Write comments. 5. Formulate a common solution.

Listening to Jackie, Meron and Evvy talk about how important o/net/Ned was and is in their lives as a supportive community and group of friends was a very special time during the discussion. I didn't take notes but just rather listened and took it in and Heather, Ellie and Sam took in their words. Truly people that give so much also get so much. Not just the words but the true connection only people can have with one another. People connecting. Good people. Making great things happen. Personal transformation and incredible individual commitment. Very special people indeed.

End of the Board Meeting Action List of Sorts

  1. Partners for Others web site to be designed and built/hosted inside of a Ned workspace.
  2. Change age restriction on site from 21 to 15 so high school students can participate.
  3. Restart brief 8:30AM PT Friday AM goal conference calls (on Skype)
  4. Help new members connect
  5. Simply need to be more action based
  6. Need to encourage more and small Ned FTF meetings worldwide

Jackie. Meron. Evvy. Please by all means help plug in the many holes that I left in this message.

Please feel free to talk about anything here.

Questions.

Ideas.

Comments.

You name it.



By Jackie Brosseuk (25), Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:51:35 PDT
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That was great Mark!! still re-reading

I know I've said it already, but I loved the get together and can't wait for the next one.

Having Ellie there and listening to and answering her thought provoking questions was a real treat because it made me really think about what <ned> is to me. I'm hoping she does some workshops for us here on <ned> in the future as she has some cool wisdom that I want more of :)

I hope Sam posts some notes as well as that will add to our collective recollections :)

the name of the hospital that I was invited to the board of is: Siyanaka Acute Care Hospital it is in the city of Manzini Swaziland :) It will fill the huge gap in Pediatric, Intensive, and Obsteric facilities that currently exists in Swaziland.

Ubuntu: Managment Philosophy: Exporting Ancient African Wisdom Into the Global World by Johann Broodryk

http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Man agment-Philosophy-Exporting-Anci ent/dp/186922132X/ref=sr_1_2?ie= UTF8&s=books&qid=1212716 776&sr=8-2

great summary and review here:

http://www.itsallwrite.net/aspbi te/categories/index.asp?intCatID =698


By Evvy Bryning (117), Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:40:45 PDT
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Thats a really good summary of the meeting Mark. Thanks for putting it up.

The only thing I can add is to expand a little on the discussion of email addresses and IM capabilities.

One thing that I brought up was the fact that LiA in Uganda has started using the PM tool on Ned for most of our communications. The reason for this is that in Uganda, for about the last 6 months it has become increasingly more difficult to get Yahoo, Hotmail or Gmail to open. Sometimes they have tried in vain for days trying to get Yahoo to open on the very slow and shaky connection that is available at our level. We find though, that ned will always open. Meron added that she had the same experience in Swaziland. So we all agreed that a better email system could be a very effective tool to develop. It would not only be very helpful to those of us working with developing countries but could be a good selling point for getting other groups/companies/organizations to sign on.

We also talked a lot about how to engage newcomers on ned. I know I have asked many people to join but they get lost and confused and don't stay as I would like. One idea we had was to come up with a good tour. Another was to have a good guide to "what do you want to do" where they can easily find groups that interest them that they can join, or find action threads, or maybe an category for new ideas for groups. Simply a way to make it easier for a newbie to actually get involved.

I know there is more, but I am like Mark and did not take really good notes. I think for me the best part of the meeting was the discussion on "what is ned" and "what ned means to me and my group" I think we all agreed that ned has become to us a place that is safe and comfortable. A place we can discuss ideas openly and get feedback from people who care and who have similar experience. Its a place where we feel free to discuss our failures as well as our successes. Its a place where we are not competing with each other but are collaborating with each other. Its a place where we genuinely want each other to succeed. Basically, its a family.


By Lars Hasselblad Torres (102), Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:10:33 PDT
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Thanks for sharing these Mark! So from what I can tell there are three kinds of "baskets" for activity:

  • The Mark Basket (profit-making stuff that channels money back into Ned)
  • The "Franchise" Basket (income generating activities that come into or flow out of Ned to specific partners)
  • The Family Basket (whoever, whatever)

Which leads me to think there is a real need for a "path" for new users, an easy way for them to discover how they "fit in" as someone else wrote...

So what do you want help from the board on (if you say feel free to jump in anywhere i'll jump through the screen and strangle you!).

How can the boards attention, time and talent be focused in a way to deliver on priorities?


By Mark Grimes (181), Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:49:39 PDT
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I think if the board could somehow help welcome new members, find out some of their interests, help get them connected in somehow...that could be very helpful.

By Linda Nowakowski (189), Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:01:02 PDT
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I think we need to do that is some kind of organized way so that 1 member doesn't get bombarded by questions from everyone and get overwhelmed...maybe I am the only person who would run from that kind of assault.

By Peter Rees (27), Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:58:21 PDT
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Linda said:

I think we need to do that is some kind of organized way so that 1 member doesn't get bombarded by questions from everyone and get overwhelmed...maybe I am the only person who would run from that kind of assault.

Linda,

I take your point, and past experience suggests to me that we have a way to go before it is likely new <ned>lies are bombarded with welcomes etc ...


By Linda Nowakowski (189), Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:19:21 PDT
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As long as the rate of growth is what it is, I am currently messaging each new member and if they have said something about themselves, I direct them to a discussion or a person who might be interesting to them. If they haven't added anything to their profile, I volunteer to help them in any what I can and tell them that I am looking forward to learning about their passions.

Maybe that is one thing off of the action list?


By Lars Hasselblad Torres (102), Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:00:04 PDT
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hm, i see this idea of 'welcoming' new members as a great role for 'moderators' - also establishes their 'role' from the get go. i'd really prefer if my role as a 'board' member was confined to strategic issues and implementation was left to a (for now) community-based volunteer structure.

am i too old school?


By Meron Moroz (85), Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:39:55 PDT
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Sam's <ned> Board Meeting notes: (tried to get Sam signed up with <ned> tonight but she couldn't remember her Yahoo password. She's gonna' go home and work on remembering ...

What Ned Is?

  • virtual on-line office
  • for social profit
  • not for profit
  • advisory board with no official board of directors
  • Ned doesn't need/want people just to sign on but people who want to work, make things happen
  • connects activists/community organizers/organizations with developing countries
  • on Ned you get to share with real people
  • read and learn from others
  • can be a forum for international learning and mentoring
  • share and use ideas i.e. peace tile project
  • Network of shared values "change the world for the better"
  • Ned is huge when it comes down to what we do - people who understand what your doing and why and can support you even in those crazy moments
  • emphasis is on social enterprize
  • founding board of Ned is action based
  • want to give people tools so they can become self-sustaining
  • if you figure out a better way then everyone has that idea/can share even the failures

What Can We do to Make More Connections

  • engage, involve, invite
  • facilitate face to face contact
  • think about what it was like to be the new person
  • 2 or 3 people welcome/guide/connect with newcomers
  • ask newcomers to pose a question so they can engage right away

Missing on Ned

  • need a Ned Tour with images and graphics - how to use
  • explain what collaborative tagging means

How to get People Involved

  • need to have things happening to get people involved
  • need fundraising ideas, to do ideas, what you can do if you give one hour
  • peace tiles
  • emancipation network project
  • reflection on what we have done
  • active learning

Ned Goals

  • on Mark's profile page
  • ability to have real time chat which brought up the question of whether this is a good idea or not and does it change communication
  • tell more stories - could there be galleries/archives of actions
  • could there be a reward/points for something you post like a story which led to the question of where do we explain about points, how you get them and what do with them

What Can Members do for Ned

  • Jackie - post heartfelt introspective stories
  • participate/being there
  • help people to get there
  • help them to know how to participate
  • Meron: keep networking and plugging people in
  • question re: age - is it keeping future contributors/Ned people away, lower the participation age
  • want to hear the stories of students i.e. Purdue/UBC who have been there (Africa?)

Ned Co-op Thingamajig

  • wants to try Better World Teams
  • wants to pay the programmer, Lars re ads he has build
  • needs packaging and designs done
  • wants to pay people $18,000-25,0000 for six months
  • try to engage people - create revenue
  • create it as a co-op - review in 6 months then go from there
  • what about a fee for service, not a full co-op
  • maybe a hybrid model more like a collective or network
  • maybe enough revenue coming in to keep the projects going
  • Mark will fund the first two projects either as a donation or capital investment over time

Microphilanthropy

  • idea is to bring in 4 people as a team with the task of using $2500.00 to make the world a better place Teams would be judged on who made the greatest impact. This concept could result in recruiting more members for Ned. The difficulties some may experience shouldn't stop a project like Make Better World going because the project may light a fire under some people, it will work for some people

Better World Media Network

  • working with websites that are working on making the world a better place
  • invite companies who want social responsibility, they can plug in, Ned board will make decision about who can/cannot plug in i.e., not gun manufacturers or cigarette companies
  • Note taker admits not sure about this section which had to do with a man named Josh and these percentages: 55%Network, 35% Ned, 20% microfinance

Giving Project

  • Ned had 10-12 people giving $31.00 a month but that died with paypal
  • there is money in the account
  • do we create monthly amounts people can pay?
  • what are the benefits?
  • suggestion of teams or groups of people who make the decisions re the money and what happens, maybe groups of 10 people
  • Questions raised about who do people give who can't give monetarily - could it be time like the Knit Wits give on Salt Spring Island - alternative currency

Ned Better World Island

  • what should be there
  • small donations for this project
  • hard to measure tangible impact
  • "more understanding of what I can do with Ned the more I can see what I can do in 2nd Life" Jackie
  • if you offer a problem/situation you need to offer an action that individuals or groups can do
  • list of things you can do

How does Ned help your Project in Africa

  • people read about projects and want to get involved
  • Ned is spontaneous
  • can have a conversation which is equal among all the groups/people/members
  • on a website you couldn't get the whole community there?

Privacy Concerns

  • depends on how you set up your group
  • everybody will see your profile
  • trust was built

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