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Twitter, Technology, Food & Hunger in Portland

Posted to: <Ned> Oregon by Mark Grimes (189), Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:26:48 PST
Edited: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:08:32 PST
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One of the breakout sessions at last weeks Springboard Innovation's Social Innovation Forum was a brainstorming session about technology and hunger. Of course as people started talking, some of the talk was about Twitter (a microblogging site), though most people had no heard of it yet.

Blanka (who'd not heard of Twitter) mentioned something about farm food on Sauvie Island and then Don S, one of the participants who had not heard of Twitter actually came up with the genesis of a pretty interesting way to use social media (Twitter) to help get unwanted fresh foods from farms (and grocery stores and restaurants) to food pantries and various distribution centers.

First created a Twitter Portland Hunger account.

Then a decentralized and open distribution network could look something like this...

  1. (Request for Pickup) Local farmers, grocery stores, restaurants (aka Provider) would be given a quick demonstration how to user Twitter (ie text messaging on their cell phones) to say they have a pickup of whatever type of food. (what, how much, where, time, notes)
  2. (Pickup Verification) The first person to respond (aka Delivery) to the @portlandhunger request for food pickup will pick and deliver the shipment. It's up to the person doing food pickup to determine which food pantry, church, or food bank they prefer the food be distributed thru. This will hopefully mean people (delivery) closest to the (provider) will be in position to most quickly get the food items to the closest distribution point.
  3. (Pickup Confirmation) Provider will reply to Delivery openly so others following can see the food is being picked up.
  4. (Pickup Authentication) Delivery (and if desired Provider) person confirms pickup of food.
  5. (Food Drop Off) Delivery person provides drop off location once food has been delivered to food pantry, food bank, or church)

So, the farmer/grocery/restaurant participants would have the least technology knowledge or responsibility in this process. The people with the most responsibility would be the Twitter Delivery people who would track the food from pickup to final destination delivery.

It's a 100% open system, no groups, organizations, businesses, or people own it or control it.

It's simple, if you can text message, you can do this.

It's flexible, and it's emergent.

More thoughts and ideas?



By someone (at) hook.org (0), Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:08:25 PST
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I have questions,

I like the pattern overall that Mark documented - I'll repeat with questions:

  1. Pickup Request: On the supply side - restaurants get a tutorial on twitter - hopefully each gets a twitter account - and this is how they can publish that they have food. [ should we also have an ordinary phone number they could call? ]
  2. Pickup Verification: The first person to respond gets to go get the food [ the fetcher responds by twitter? or by phone? i guess the restaurant staff have to get the twitter via sms right? ]
  3. Pickup confirmation: Provider publishes that somebody is getting the food. [ hmmm, can we remove this stage? or shift the burden to the fetcher? ]
  4. Pickup authentication: Fetcher and Provider can both confirm the pickup was accomplished.
  1. Food drop off. Fetcher does something with the food ] I actually don't care what happens at this point and onwards myself... I figure it is something to look at later on. ]

I think it's great overall.

Questions:

  1. How to really test this - what is the praxis? How can we do something this week, or within 2 weeks to actually try the idea in the real world?

  2. Maybe a dial in number at some point? Or connect to 211?

  3. Is the total public nature and visibility a good idea? I think so but it will be raised as an issue. There is a grey space of semi-public behavior that we may need to consider. I would advise ignoring such issues for now and stay totally public.

  4. In the second round - folks from the sunshine food pantry (?) suggested a window sticker for restaurants. Are there any other incentives we can create for participants? For example the fetchers (aka delivery people aka runners) how can we create incentive for them?

  5. I really want to actually be able to talk to everybody directly and know who everybody is and try to see if we can't continue this theme in real life at some point? Katherine is interested, I'm interested, Mark is interested - but I don't remember the names of the other people. I have a few folks from the second round to add to this list:

    jesswansart@gmail.com jaclynkampmeier@yahoo.com raina.carter@gmail.com wkarmol@nami.org

Also hopefully Katherine can provide the names of those two folks from Sunshine who are also extremely interested in this kind of thing and who've been talking about it quite a bit even before our sessions.

I don't in any way want to own or take credit for any of the creative ideas that we batted around - but I do have some helpful research and I want to throw it into the pot. I have been thinking about this quite a bit, and I think it's the same consensus most everybody arrived at. That basically we can use some of these internet services to help connect people. I am doing research on general riff on the idea - to build a real time craiglist:

http://www.slideshare.net/anselm /citybot-presentation/

http://citybot.org

http://makerlab.org/projects/cit ybot/news


By someone (at) gmail.com (0), Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:13:56 PST
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I am wondering if we should take a step back from all of our plotting and go meet with Urban Gleaners. They will have some ideas for us as far as working with local restaurants. I think we should start out targeting only a few restaurants in a localized area, like backspace, pearl bakery, blossoming lotus. Personally, I like the idea of not having a middle man at all---is there some way to get it from provider to eater directly?

Pickup confirmation: Provider publishes that somebody is getting the food. [ We should shift the burden to the fetcher ] Pickup authentication: Fetcher and Provider can both confirm the pickup was accomplished. (I agree)

How to really test this - what is the praxis? How can we do something this week, or within 2 weeks to actually try the idea in the real world? (We should meet with Urban Gleaners and get their thoughts on it)

I really want to actually be able to talk to everybody directly and know who everybody is and try to see if we can't continue this theme in real life at some point? (YES!) Katherine is interested, I'm interested, Mark is interested - but I don't remember the names of the other people. I have a few folks from the second round to add to this list: JESSICA jesswansart@gmail.com JACKY jaclynkampmeier@yahoo.com RAINA raina.carter@gmail.com WARREN KARMOL (on springboard's board, nonprofit guru) wkarmol@nami.org

Sunshine pantry contact: Clare Simons clairesimonsis@gmail.com


By Mark Grimes (189), Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:55:18 PST
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General thoughts and ideas, and I think we should have a face-to-face meeting, I'll put something out there for next week and see who can attend.

>>[ should we also have an ordinary phone number they could call? ]<<

We can, but that might be adding a closed part to an open system. It does seem like there would be ways to build in using other technologies (phone, flickr, wiki, etc) but perhaps keep in very focused on Twitter at launch and see how it builds from there.

>>i guess the restaurant staff have to get the twitter via sms right? ]>>

I think the restaurant (and farm, food source) would need to be given a 15 minute Twitter training, that would also include setting up a Twitter account.

>>Pickup confirmation: Provider publishes that somebody is getting the food. [ hmmm, can we remove this stage? or shift the burden to the fetcher? ]<<

We might be able to remove or shift burden to fetcher, needs testing I think.

>>[ I actually don't care what happens at this point and onwards myself... I figure it is something to look at later on. ]<<

While I'm not a concerned either, I think the Provider would want to know where it is headed.

>>How to really test this - what is the praxis? How can we do something this week, or within 2 weeks to actually try the idea in the real world?<<

Perhaps getting 12-ish food source locations (restaurants, grocery stores, farms) willing to participate and trained on Twitter.

>>Maybe a dial in number at some point?<<

Perhaps, for now I think let Twitter do all the heavy lifting, and let's plug the food sources into the @portlandhunger Twitter stream. We will also need a wiki/index of some sorts for food pantries, and such ... that are throughout Portland Metro and able to receive deliveries.

>>Is the total public nature and visibility a good idea? I would advise ignoring such issues for now and stay totally public.<<

Total transparency seems fine and the best way to share openly and keep things as decentralized as possible.

>>In the second round - folks from the sunshine food pantry (?) suggested a window sticker for restaurants.<<

Great idea. Maybe farms can have Twitter @portlandhunger political-like yard signs. Visible to people driving buy, people who would be inclined to pickup unused but edible produce.

>>Are there any other incentives we can create for participants? For example the fetchers (aka delivery people aka runners) how can we create incentive for them?<<

Perhaps something like once Delivery People/Fetchers do 1, 5, 10 deliveries they get a free Twitter @portlandhunger t-shirt. Everyone loves t-shirts.

Research helpful too Anselm, anything that helps constructively solve problems is just welcome and fantastic.

>>meet with Urban Gleaners. They will have some ideas for us as far as working with local restaurants. I think we should start out targeting only a few restaurants in a localized area, like backspace, pearl bakery, blossoming lotus. Personally, I like the idea of not having a middle man at all---is there some way to get it from provider to eater directly?<<

Seems like there are three types of action/groups needed: 1/Food Source, which can be restaurants, grocery stores, & farms, and 2/Delivery/Fetchers people willing to transport food to 3/Distribution Point which could be food pantry, soup kitchen and various orgs.

Food Sources want to help out and get food to people that are hungry.

Delivery/Fetcher is available to help, maybe once, maybe regularly and may or may not be inclined to deliver food to a specific distribution point.

Distribution Points want an easy influx of various nutritious food sources.

The glue that may well hold this together is the Delivery/Fetchers that are the largest and most decentralized group of the three. The most "heavy lifting" seems like it will be the quick Twitter training and setup for Food Sources. Luckily, Twitter/TXT messaging is just so simple. If it's keep just so simply for Food Sources, this might help get much more food to the food pantries and related organizations. A win for everyone, all just using existing networks and technologies.


By Albert Kaufman (2), Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:20:39 PST
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Just a quick note. I was at the forum above, and we (perhaps I) also talked about yardsharing. Well, it turns out there's already a site here in town doing this, and they'd love some help. http://yardsharing.org + they're having a meeting, tonight, 11/18 at the Beaumont Middle School at 6pm. I plan to be there. Will read the above and feedback shortly. albertkaufman, Portland.


By Mark Grimes (189), Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:05:33 PST
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WRT helping, some people on Twitter may have desire to drive food from point A to point B, others may want to share an idea, some may want to share information, some may want to make a small financial contribution towards an organization that is making a real difference in Portland, hunger.


By Mark Grimes (189), Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:10:01 PST
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Welcome, Albert...very happy to have you here, and Clare and Anselm.


By Robyn (1), Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:03:23 PST
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Here is something else to consider: Fork It Over!

Fork It Over! is Metro's food donation program to reduce hunger and waste in the Portland metropolitan area. Join the many area businesses that have committed to reducing waste and fighting hunger.

http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index .cfm/go/by.web/id=9887


By Mark Grimes (189), Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:07:30 PST
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Great link Robyn, and welcome to Ned.

So I'm wondering if a PortlandHunger Twitter crowd could somehow act as transportation for the Fork It Over program.


By Robyn (1), Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:12:12 PST
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I put in a call to the program coordinator for Fork It Over and am waiting for her to get back to me. I'll try to get her connected to this network and see what that brings.

Any other thoughts on connecting to Fork It Over?


By Albert Kaufman (2), Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:45:11 PST
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anything new on this? albertkaufman@ gmail.com


By Mark Grimes (189), Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:53:14 PST
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>>Any other thoughts on connecting to Fork It Over?<<

Asking them how Twitter, technology or social media might help them.

>>anything new on this?<<

Need some ideas/things to try at @portlandhunger on Twitter and see how they go. Any ideas?


By lars@work (3), Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:43:31 PST
Edited: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:44:09 PST
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Mark, have you asked Haney about this topic? I bet he's into social tools for his food justice work...? There's also a webinar coming up I posted elsewhere that I thought could be helpful for you here:

Citizen Media and Online Engagement Webinar E-Democracy.Org is planning a "webinar" on citizen media and online engagement in local communities.

For the fifth in our series of Rural Voices outreach events, this live and interactive presentation will be "everywhere."

We plan to combine telephone access for audio with computer screen sharing for slides and some live web demonstrations. We may even try a bit of video.

Part One - Citizen Media and Online Engagement Introduction - 45 Minutes Part Two - Online Issues Forums for Local Participation - 45 Minutes Participation is free for those who live in Greater Minnesota (thanks to our Rural Voices grant from the Blandin Foundation). Those who live in the Twin Cities and outside of Minnesota are asked to make a donation of any amount before the event. These are some of the slides we will be adapting. Those calling in for audio may have long-distance charges.

The exact time (likely 2 p.m. Central) and date in late January or early February has yet to be set. Please check back on this page or join the new Minnesota Voices online community to be notified of the exact time and date. If you have questions, contact us.

Space may be limited. To "reserve" your space now, please add your name, city, state/country and organization, blog/org link, etc. here - press edit:

Steven Clift, Minneapolis, MN, E-Democracy.Org, http://e-democracy.org Ross Williams, Grand Rapids, MN, Northern Community Internet, http://www.northerncommunityinte rnet.org Dan Thiede, St. Paul, MN, The Minnesota Project (http://www.mnproject.org) & CERTs (http://www.cleanenergyresourcete ams.org) Persephone Miel, Boston MA www.mediarepublic.org Elizabeth McLean, Washington DC, non-profit web tools advocate Nancy LaRoche, Minneapolis, MN Non-profit Web site volunteer Danna MacKenzie, Grand Marais, MN Cook County IT and Boreal Access


By lars@work (3), Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:46:36 PST
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There's another resource, which is the Knight Commission - The Knight Commission on the Information Needs of Communities in a Democracy... a 15-member commission of luminaries assembled to recommend both public and private measures that would help American communities better meet their information needs.

A well-informed citizenry is critical to democracy. News, journalism and other information conduits play a central role in informing society. Yet, at a time when the problems facing American communities are arguably unprecedented in number, scope and complexity, the nation’s news and information systems, both commercial and not-for-profit, are in the midst of a technological revolution that is dramatically changing flows of news and information.

They're at http://www.knightcomm.org/backgr ound


By lars@work (3), Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:51:21 PST
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The reason I post these somewhat broader resources is that I think it will be relatively easy for a group to get Twitter going in the way you've envisioned. Finding the behaviors that "stick to the wall" among some group people, and then learning to improve and scale the behavior will be the rub. Perhaps some of these forums can be of support in that regard...?

Related, what about Twitter as a monitoring and evaluation tool, ie what if the state agency responsible for WIC foodstamps had a twitter account where people could post feedback ie "@wicportland no root vegetables at central market" or whatever... more imporant things like, "@wicportland stamps not accepted at central market..." likely a variety of programs (think utilities or other infrastructure?) could benefit from the compact, tactical, and distributed information network Twitter might represent.

Helping users associate with the tool in this way might be a bigger problem?


By lars@work (3), Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:34:15 PST
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Speaking of which, just saw this: Knight Foundation sponsoring Facebook news application development - cool! http://www.knightfoundation.org/ news/press_room/knight_press_rel eases/detail.dot?id=339186


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