Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

With the completion of the apportionment earlier this year of all the poorer countries to be included in the first allocation of the World Connectory Project, the task of apportionment that was begun in 2005 was then at the halfway point.

With the completion today of the 120 partner areas from the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and Slovenia, that together make up the Eastern Europe world zone, the task is now five-eighths completed.

Another milestone - just fifteen more world zones to be done!

Last comment added: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:26:59 PDT

Comment 1 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

congrats David!

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Two more world zones completed: France and Germanic North.

After struggling to find any data at all (sometimes) when apportioning poorer countries, the problem now is that the extent of information available. That is to say, with the exception of cities of more than 500,000, where there is a unitary administrative authority and no information apparently about any smaller subdivisions, there are if anything too many choices to be made and a danger of over-elaboration.

Still, two more world zones divided up. Just starting Germanic South (which includes Austria, Liechtenstein and Switzerland)...

Comment 3 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Thanks for keeping us posted, David. I'm keen to see it when the next step is ready.

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Congratulations David on the Great steps you have taken towards apportionment !!

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Thanks Jon and Moses!

It's a bit of a slog at the moment, but I think I'm getting there. I've just finished Switzerland to complete Germanic South, the eighth of the twenty world zones for the more economically developed countries in the world.

Next for apportionment will be Italy, followed by Japan (North) and Japan (South), hopefully before Christmas.

Jon refers to "the next step" - I take that to be the next step after Apportionment of all 20 world zones is complete. The next steps (some of which would ideally be commenced before Apportionment is complete) include:

Getting the right message up on the WWC website at Connectory.org (I've found this difficult: need to be clear who the target audience is and what exactly the website will be inviting them to do and when)
Engaging non profits & NGOs in the WWC idea so that there some current projects are listed for as many of the 2400 List A* areas as possible [* See below]
Development of an Advice on How to Proceed guidance manual to be incorporated into the WWC. (In addition to listing all the partner areas, the Worldwide Connectory will need to contain step by step suggestions about how each partner area might be mobilised into effective action)
Practical solutions to the problems of translation and the rapid promotion of the WWC idea worldwide (including perhaps the development of a development team in each region or large country in the List A areas and for each of the twenty List B world zones)

[* Instead of referring to Richer and Poorer partner areas, as I have previously done, I now think it would be better to refer to the two lists of partner areas as List A and List B.

List A will contain areas of the world where there is little wealth and has been relatively little economic development. Here the residents are happy, miserable, powerless, empowered, resourceful, unadventurous, uneducated, educated, healthy, sick, talented and inspiring.

List B will contain areas of the world where there is much greater wealth and economic development. Here the residents are also happy, miserable, powerless, empowered, resourceful, unadventurous, uneducated, educated, healthy, sick, talented and inspiring.

By linking up each partner area from List A with a partner area from List B, the stage will be set for mutual sharing of physical and non-physical resources and the two-way fostering of friendship, cooperation and sustainable development.]

Ideas about next steps and using the terminology of Lists A & B would be very welcome!

Comment 6 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

David, I recall you once had a list of NGO's-by-location you were building - does it still exist? I can't seem to locate it in the workspace.

I was thinking I could add my own little NGO/charity (especially now that we're doing international projects), assuming that's not unhelpful.

"Phoenix Community Works Foundation (pcwf.ca) - community projects at home (Canada) and abroad (Sri Lanka, Jamaica, Kenya)"

Comment 7 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

That's right, Jon. I stopped working on it when it was suggested that WiserEarth had already developed a better list.

I'm still not decided on this. WiserEarth is more comprehensive and will continue to expand and be updated. It is a really useful resource for a people wishing to find out about useful organisations that are working in any given country in the world.

But I'd been planning on including in the WWC listings not only links to organisations working in a given country, but links to the specific areas in the country where they were working. In this way, people could easily find examples of projects already operating in their allocated partner areas and perhaps plan ways of supporting these. I'd still like to do that, but with apportionment continuing to be my priority right now, I'm not sure that continuing work on the nonprofitslist is still time well spent.

As it stands, and if a more complete list were compiled, it would at least point to the countries in which, let's say, nonprofits X, Y or Z are currently working in. That would be useful.

The next stage that I planned was to contact the listed organisations, sending them lists of the partner areas for the countries in which they were were working and asking them if they could specify exactly in which areas their projects were located.

That way, when a particular area was allocated, people living in its partner area would have an immediate link to organisations already operating there and if they wished could start planning ways to offer their support of these projects.

So if anyone want to take a look at the nonprofitslist workpage and work on it in any way that would be great!

Please add PCWF to the list Jon (or I can add it myself). Better still, could you add the WWC number(s) for the area(s) in whihc PCWF is operating?

Thanks, Jon, for pointing out that I'd not transferred the nonprofitslist workpage to ned.com. Pleae let me know if you are still having difficulty in accessing it.

Comment 8 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Hi David - apologies, I didn't have the wherewithal to add the WWC partner areas right away - and when I back to add them in tonight, you'd already done it for me. Much thanks!

Is the non-profits list something you'd like a volunteer to work on?

(edited by Jon A. - added 2nd para.)

Comment 9 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

You bet!

A team of volunteers even.

Comment 10 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

OK - you got it!

I'll start working on it, and others are welcome to join me.

It appears to be straight-forward, David, so I'll just start in - perhaps you wouldn't mind taking a peek on occasion, and letting me know if I've gone astray or if I should be aware of something I've missed.

Comment 11 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Thanks, Jon!

I've been dividing Italy up. Just finished. That's nine of the 20 world zones for List B countries completed. Slowly getting there.

I'll take a look at the nonprofitslist tomorrow. You're right - compiling a list of organisations working in the listed countries is fairly straightforward. Finding out exactly where their current (and future) projects are located is a bit harder, but need not be tackled straightaway. It would be good to enthuse nonprofits with the WWC idea: they should stand to benefit if we can get the idea to take off.

So how best to go about this?

Comment 12 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Good question David -- I've been thinking about the subject a bit myself.

Getting a website that houses and concisely describes the project (connectory.org or similar) will be a big help -- I've had some feedback indicating that people are feeling too swamped to join a member-driven social network a la ned.com just so they can learn more (I'm working on that).

I'll muse on it further.

Comment 13 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

David,

You've made considerable progress since I last took a look. the list of non profits is great. Have you created a way to sort this by country? Or by cause?

I keep getting contacted by youth organizations in Africa and keep encouraging someone to build a database/social network for these organizations so that they could help each other attract more of the resources they all seem to be struggling to find.

Where else do you host this list other than here on Ned?

My goal of building a list of tutor/mentor programs (see http://www.tutormentorconnection .org ) is to help programs connect with each other, and to help volunteers and donors interested in the goals of these programs to connect with them as resource providers. Thus, I try to take a more active role than just building the list, which in itself is a huge task.

As I have future contacts I'll encourage them to take a look at the work you're doing here, unless you'd like to point to a different web address.

Good luck.

Comment 14 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Hi Dan, I'm sure David will want to weigh in, but your post prompted me to put down on paper some ideas I've been "half-baking" as I visit the nonprofits list, making little additions to it here and there - I think they jibe with what you are suggesting:

it would be great to have the nonprofits list in a database format, so one could sort and search on various fields (name of org, type of work, location (country/region/WWC#)
it would also be good to have a mechanism to keep it updated - some of that would have to be manual, but at least web site URLs could be auto-checked periodically

There are online resources that do some of this already (cataloguing non profits), as David points out e.g. wiserearth, but the WWC# is a key item that is unique to the project, which takes extra effort to identify

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We created our own survey tool and information display page in order to tailor the information we were collecting the way we wanted to. It's at http://www.tutormentorprogramloc ator.net/programlocator/prgloc.a sp

We're now training programs to log in and update or add their own data.

I'd like to see someone doing something similar to this in other countries.

Comment 16 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Thanks Dan and Jon for your thoughts.

The training issue is an important one for the WWC project and as you suggest, Dan, I think the process needs to be devolved to local areas to operate in ways that are meaningful to them, both in terms of information selection and systems maintenance.

The more that goes into the nonprofitslist the better, imo, but I don't think it need be an absolutely essential element in the WWC project. However, I hope it might spur people on in each List B area (i.e. richer countries) to set out to discover what projects are going on in their List A partner area so that they can mutually develop their own local lists.

It would also be good to get nonprofits to see a listing in the WWC as a useful promotion of the work that their organisation is doing and a potential source of support and donations. Ideally also it might enable local communities to help shape the projects undertaken in each area. This will require the careful writing of some standard letters explaining how the nonprofitslist might be used. There's so much to do.

I've been making good progress in apportioning Japan North and will finish this by the end of this week. That will mark the half way point for apportioning the List B countries and 75% of apportionment will then be complete. My target was to get Japan North and South done by the end of the year. So I'm definitely on target! :)

Thanks Jon for all the work you've been doing on the nonprofitslist! And I'll answer your PM - I promise.

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Hi David - thanks. No rush on the PM, I've forged ahead and found at least one NGO working in the Central African Republic.

I'm trying to make sure the list includes, for each country on the WWC list, at least one active NGO (based on the best information I can find).

I'm pretty close. Of course, this is only a start, and a small contribution - I hope it helps.

Ideally, I'd think we'd want at least one NGO per partner area - this would be a bigger job, in my estimation.

Congratulations on the progress you've made with the much more central task!

(Edited by Jon A - added text)

Comment 18 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Is the list here the only place a non profit from Africa or Asia or South America can access the list, and add information about their organization?

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Dan, I have been playing around trying to get the right message for the WWC website at Connectory.org but haven't quite got there yet. So for the time being we don't have a website up and running. I think there are dangers in going public too early before the project is ready to launch.

So in the meantime, there is nowhere else but here where non profits could access and amend the nonprofitslist.

In the new year, I hope to get a basic message on the website about the WWC project, the proposed timetable for the project and how people can use the website to participate.

I see the website as the right place to list the following:

all the partner areas (Lists A & B)

nonprofits active in each area (if any)

established international links for each area (e.g. the link between Salt Spring Island and Lesotho WWC# 1225)

a contact address for a self-nominated correspondent for each area (with whom others in that area can make contact, leading in due course to some kind of organisational structure in each area and the election of officers)

ideally, at least one local media address for each area whom participants might contact in order to establish new connections within and between partner areas

guidance on how individuals, groups and organisations might get started on developing local activities and making international connections

facility for updating information

how to contact the WWC organisation centrally

from Configuration Day, 20 lists (one for each world zone), each containing the 120 partner areas from which each individual partnership will randomly be chosen

from Declaration Day, the complete list of current WWC partnerships

local website details for each partnership (when available)

Until the website is functioning, ned.com seems a good place to develop the information that will need to go on the website.

I'm increasingly persuaded that as much information as possible should be stored and used at a local level. This could mean that while the website might host a regular newsletter with news, feedback and ideas from around the world, it would probably be best for each partnership to develop their own website, their own gallery of photos, their own messageboards, and their own accumulation of information about non profits involved within the partnership area. They may care to share the most important information of this kind, filing it centrally in updating the nonprofitslist, but it is probably more useful to gather an active working file in the area where that information will most be used. On re-allocation of areas, the new List B area partnering that particular List A area could inherit a copy of that same body of active, working information.

The aim would be for a low maintenance central website.

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Hi David, I see the wisdom in what you are saying - it makes sense for the individual partnerships to gather and organise their own set of relevant information.

Having said that, perhaps the nonprofitslist you've created can serve as a starting point for the good work that I'm confident will result from this excellent project.

To that end, I can announce a very modest achievement - I believe there is now at least one organisation listed for each country in the "List of developing countries" (and in most cases at least 2, if you include NGOs' with broad coverage such as the Red Cross/Red Crescent).

I actually learned some valuable things about aid groups, so it was worth it to me to do it, even if it doesn't end up being fully utilised at a later stage in the WWC project.

Thanks for providing the opportunity for an enjoyable little project. Onward we go!

Comment 21 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Congratulations, Jon!

That's great. It means there's a starting point available for everyone in a List B area to contact the non profit and find out whether it's active in their particular WWC area.

Also, I'm sorry, Jon, I didn't mean to undermine what you've been doing. I think what you're doing is great - and of real importance. I didn't intend to suggest anything contrary to that, nor that your work won't be fully utilised.

What I meant to convey is that a listing of a sample of active organisations in each WWC area (ideally) would be a good starting point for people living in those areas (or elsewhere, if they choose) to see what work they might support, publicise and encourage.

Beyond that there will be a larger set of more detailed information (names and addresses, photographs, commentaries on visits to projercts, specific appeals, links to CBOs participating or associated with each active non profit etc) that might best be accommodated and updated on a website shared between the List A and List B area (though paid for and provided in all likelihood by the List B partners). All that would then be needed, in terms of visibility to others in the wider project, would be a link on the central website to the local website for the mutuality.

After five or ten years, when there is a new configuration and declaration of new partnerships, all the information gathered about work in each List A area would then be available to a new partner area for continued use.

Comment 22 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

The more specific list that David is referring to is what I hope to encourage in specific areas of the world. While initially my goal is that youth serving organizations might duplicate some of the database features of the http://www.tutormentorconnection .org site, they'd also build new features and information related to issues specific to their own countries.

As David says, these should be able to link up to more centralized information, networking and collaboration forums, where a list like David is compiling will be important to help people go up and down (global/local) in finding different organizations to work with, support, or network with.

Comment 23 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

You both make valid points, and I agree whole-heartedly.

And not to worry David - I really feel like I'm contributing to something brilliant and world-changing! Thanks for your words of encouragement.

Comment 24 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

A day or two behind schedule, but Japan North is now apportioned, and with it, the three-quarters mark has been reached: 3,600 of the 4,800 partner areas have now been defined and half of the 20 world zones (into which the List B countries have been grouped) have now been completed.

Hitherto, Japan has been a bit of a blank spot for me. But surfing round the city websites (English versions only, I'm afraid) I think I'm getting to understand Japan much better and I'm increasingly hopeful that the Japanese partner areas might prove to become really active. There seems to be a strong sense of civic duty and desire to work as a team in Japanes society and this could transfer well to WWC activities.

But first we'll need to get translations done and acquire some WWC ambassadors in Japan, as elsewhere in the non English-speaking world.

I think it would be good to offer a blueprint for getting started in any locality. While it is important that every partner area retains the right to organise its own activities in whatever way it thinks best, some suggestions about how to begin might be very helpful.

Even if 99.9% of the population are not one bit interested in the WWC, that would still leave 0.1% who might be! And since each partner area will on average cover a population of 500,000 people that could translate into 500 people! (With 499,500 people unimpressed!).

Typically 500 people in a single WWC partner area might well be distributed among up to a dozen main centres of population. So the starting point for anyone interested in developing a WWC Connection group in their own area might be to get together with a few friends and plan an inaugural meeting. This could done perfectly well by a single, well-motivated individual, but would probably be more fun done by a small group.

The first task might be to list every single organisation, club, school, faith group, group, team etc. active in that population centre. Then to send to each one of these, a summary of the objectives of the WWC project and an invitation to send one or two representatives to an inaugural meeting at a well-known meeting place for the area. These invitations might best be emailed, but posted or hand-distributed copies would do equally well.

We could produce a sample agenda to help organisers plan their inaugural meeting.

Once some momentum has been achieved in one locality within an area, it should be possible to export that momentum to other local centres of population. Then by working in concert with each other, once their partner area has randomly been allocated to them, it should be possible to subdivide each area so that links can be made between individual towns, neighbourhoods and villages within each partner area.

Then the possibilities are endless!

Comment 25 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Congratulations and kudos, David, for reaching the 3/4 mark!

Your ideas about creating a 'blueprint' for getting the WWC project going, seem very sound to me.

I admit I feel a bit daunted by the potential tasks, but there may be a way to divide it up into manageable pieces, and allow "dilettantes" like me to take it a step at a time.

You've actually hit on something that resonates with me - I style myself a much better 'talker' than a 'writer', so holding an inaugural meeting will probably be easier for me than creating an introductory document.

Having said that, I will turn the idea over in my mind further.

One thing 'twigs' in my memory - did you say you needed assistance in preparing material for the connectory.org web site/concept? I ask because, in my view, that would be a great initial resource to have.

Maybe it would seem more do-able if it started off as simply a copy (hopefully searchable) of the archived onet/ned.com WWC discussions? It might offer new(er)comers to the project, an opportunity (without having to join ned.com - perhaps we do want to encourage them to join?!?) to read about the genesis of the WWC idea...? Just a partly-baked thought.

Comment 26 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Japan South is now divided up. 11 zones completed: 9 still to be done. The Mediterranean world zone is next.

I shan't start that till the New Year.

Meanwhile, I'll do a stint on the nonprofitslist. If anyone else wants to lend a hand, it would really useful. Non profits are often quite small organisations operating from just one country. The best non profits list will therefore include a whole range of development aid organisations from a wide range of different countries. While non profits may be based in a single country, they will no doubt be delighted to receive support and encouragement from people living in other countries too.

Happy Christmas everyone!

Comment 27 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Great news - congrats, David, and a very Merry Christmas to you and yours!

Comment 28 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Thanks, Jon.

Hope you all had an excellent Christmas and wishing you and all Toronto a very happy New Year!

I thought I'd just post here to say that in working on the nonprofitslist between Christmas Eve and today - New Years Eve - you'll see I've started listing nonprofits active in each individual country. As I write, I've got as far as Honduras. I'll have perhaps just over another hour on the computer this evening before signing off and seeing in the New Year.

There may well be a better way of adding to this list, but this works for me:

go to nonprofitslist and into edit mode

go to end and scroll back to last individual country heading. Then add the name of next country in bold, followed on the next-but-one line by: .. line-block, a space and two colons

Click on file and select edit with notepad. Start a new page on the notepad and shrink and position it to the mid right hand side of screen.

Click on edit and select find. Type the name of the country you are doing in the find box. Click next.

This will have taken you to the first nonprofit listed as working in that country. Click before and after the name of the country and add an asterisk (to italicise)

Copy (Ctrl+C) the full nonprofit name (i.e. backward single inverted comma, nonprofit name, back inverted single comma, followed by upper case "-". I'm trying, and miserably failing, to describe a standard link!) and paste (Ctrl+V) onto notepad. Leave one space before each name and return to next line ready for the next paste

Repeat clicking on the next button in the find box until all nonprofits for your country have been done using the method described above.

Then click on edit in the notepad and choose select all. Copy (Ctrl+C) and paste (Ctrl+V) into nonprofitslist a clear line below the line-block instruction.

Preview & save.

Sounds more complicated than it is.

So, I'll see what I can get done in the next hour.

Comment 29 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

I've been working on apportionment since New Years Day and have just finished Spain. Just need to divide up Greece and Cyprus and the Mediterranean world zone will be done.

Comment 30 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Great news David!

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Yep, Mediterranean world zone is now done. I made a start on Oceania & Taiwan world zone today.

If I can finish this before the end of the month, I'll have another bash at the nonprofitslist. Then I'll start the next world zone on 1st Feb. and aim to get two world zones done in February too.

At that rate the job will be done by mid May!

Comment 32 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Oceania & Taiwan world zone was finished today.

That's 13 down, 7 to go.

It gives me four days before starting on the Rest of Asia world zone. I hope to use some of that time to do some more work on the nonprofitslist, to try to get something up on the Connectory.org website & to start asking charities/non-profits country-by-country where exactly their projects are situated.

Anyone who would like to help with these or other tasks would be more than welcome!

Comment 33 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Good news David!

I expect I may have a bit of free time in the next week or so, and would like to help out.

Should I proceed to continue the editing of the nonprofitslist based on the help "footprints" you have left so far, or should I await the outcome of your confirmation efforts?

Comment 34 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Jon asks:

Should I proceed to continue the editing of the nonprofitslist based on the help "footprints" you have left so far, or should I await the outcome of your confirmation efforts?

Continuing the editing and adding in new nonprofits would be great. As I get responses from nonprofits detailing exactly where they are working (or plan to work), we can update the entry. It should then look like the entry I just did for Harambee Schools Kenya who state on their website they are working around Gilgil in the Rift Valley.

Looking at the map, it is clear that this lies within WWC area #1192:

Kenya - Rift Valley province: Nakuru district (Kuresoi, Molo and Rongai parliamentary constituency areas)

Kenya - Rift Valley province: Nakuru district (Naivasha, Nakuru Town and Subukia parliamentary constituency areas)

Kenya - Rift Valley province: Nandi district

It's very sad - this is precisely the area where so many atrocities have been reported over the past week.

Thanks once again for your help, Jon.

Other help that would be appreciated:

draft of a standard letter to send to nonprofits asking if they would be willing to specific exactly where they are working (so the correct WWC area can be identified).

I did draft what I thought was quite a good one and sent it to the Gerrald Durrell Wldlife Preservation Trust but I did so via their own website Contact Us button, there being no other available way that I could detect. The problem was that there was apparently a limit on the number of characters you could use in a single email and when they replied it was clear that that the start - and indeed most - of my email had been obliterated. I forgot to take a copy. So any suggestions would be useful.

your comments please, everyone, on the discussion I started on Selling the Worldwide Connectory. When I get a moment, I'll add a few more ideas/suggestions to explain my thinking there.

Comment 35 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

After a "holiday" adding to the nonprofitslist etc, today was Feb 1st. So it was back to apportionment - the 14th world zone is Rest of Asia: Brunei, Singapore & South Korea.

I've sorted out Brunei and Singapore today, leaving just the 109 portions of South Korea to do.

I still fear I'm going to run into an impossible stumbling block. I think back to large urban areas in Angola or Nicaragua and other places whose population details seemed to be totally missing from the internet. Yet eventually, after a week or two, a way through always emerged.

More recently, while apportioning the wealthier countries the problem has often seemed too much information rather than too little: the population figures for every neighbourhood and every region, but no intermediary sized units. So when I looked at Singapore today my heart sank. Total population is just over four and a half million but there seemed to be no further details of the population figures anywhere. Wikipedia had zilch, Statoids listed 6 districts, but without any population figures. And wherever I looked - nothing.

Then I stumbled on the 200 page long 2000 census report. Usually I find I can't download long documents like that or they don't include any local population figure anyway. But on this occasion I found tucked away on page 16 a map of the planning areas of Singapore. Then in Table 19 on pages 165 & 165, the total number of households in each planning area (well in most of them anyway) was given. The aggregated total was approximately one fifth of the figure given elsewhere as the figure for Singapore's whole population.

So, even without the actual local population figures, I could not only make a series of informed guesses, but I could then map them out on the map of the planning areas. In no time at all, I then had the definitions for the ten areas of Singapore that I required.

Surely nothing can go terminally wrong now!

Comment 36 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Rest of Asia is now done. Not too many problems and has taken only just over a week to complete.

Next up is Rest of Europe & Middle East

Then just five more zones to go!

edited to fix link

Comment 37 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Hi David, It is good to note that you carried over your good work from O.Net. Keep it up and look forward to actualization of your project.

Comment 38 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Bahrain, Belgium, Luxembourg & Israel completed; Kuwait, Netherlands, Portugal, Qatar & UAE to be done. One third done; two-thirds to do.

This Rest of Europe and the Middle East world zone is a bit of a hotchpotch. It's a catch-all of many of the countries that couldn't be fitted in elsewhere.

It doesn't really matter. The idea of having World Zones was a way to organise the partner allocation process. By breaking the whole down into units of 120 connection areas, it makes it much easier not to lose track of individual areas and allows scope eventually for each world zone itself to devise ways of arousing people's interest in the final selection of areas.

For instance, to know that you are going to be paired with one of 2,400 areas doesn't arouse as much interest as to know that the selection process has been narrowed down to just 120.

Even then it would be much more of a talking point if the choice had then been narrowed down still further, to just one of say half a dozen potential partner areas.

edited for omitted words

Comment 39 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Well, finishing Rest of Europe & Middle East proved to be a bit of a struggle in the end. I may still need to revise the divisions of the United Arab Emirates.

But leaving that aside, I can now have another short vacation from apportionment until the end of the month. Unless someone suggests something better I expect I'll focus once again on making progress towards completion of the nonprofitslist.

Then, on March 1st - metaphorically speaking only! (I haven't been outside the UK since 1969) - I'll embark on the final stage of this round-the-world-many-times virtual odyssey by "crossing" the Atlantic for a final time to start work on the South America world zone.

After that, there will just be four world zones in the USA to finish in order to complete the whole task of apportionment.

Light at the end of the tunnel!

Comment 40 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

I've changed the tile of this thread to encompass work on the Nonprofitslist as well as on Apportionment.

Tomorrow will be the last day I work on this before returning once again Apportionment. So two points: one about each task.

The work I've been doing on the Nonprofitslist has mostly been in compiling a list of which non-profits are working in each country.

This information will be of use to whichever List B Connection Area is allocated a partner area in a List A country. It will be possible to use the list to check with non-profits where exactly they are working and what work they are doing there. The next step for the Connection Area to take will be to decide how they might want to support the individual projects being run by each non-profit.

This is what the lists now look like.

The second point is about Apportionment.

I've been looking at the 2007 version of the United Nations Human Development Index, the single most inportant factor that I used to decide which countries to include in the WWC.

Recent changes suggest that inclusion of Serbia and Montenegro may no longer be justified. Other countries such as Peru may be more entitled to be included instead.

I'll keep you posted.

Comment 41 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Thanks David for the wonderful work. Could you guide me where you put non-profits for Uganda?

Comment 42 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Tonny,

We're working alphabetically. So non-profits operating in Uganda won't feature on the list until either later this month (once I've finished apportioning South America and the first of four remaining regions of the USA) or more probably the end of April.

For the countries that feature at present, less than half of eligible non-profits are on the current list, since the listing of the non-profits is also being done alphabetically and nearly all those that are already listed are from the first half of the alphabet.

Still, we've made a start. Look at any of the countries listed so far. If you click on any of the non-profits listed, it should take you to that non-profits website, where further information should be available about the work they are doing in each listed country.

Sorry I've been slow in replying to your question!

Comment 43 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Thanks for the recent additions to the nonprofitslist, Jon!

Please feel free, everyone, to add a non profit organisation working in any the world's 100+ poorest countries, especially if you think they are making a useful contribution.

You don't need to edit the workspace if you'd prefer not to, nor to add links or cross-references. Either you could add these refinements later or others could do this for you.

Instead, if you wish, please put here, in this discussion thread, any additions to the nonprofitslist that you'd like included.

We've listed and linked to 137 non-profits so far, so we still have quite a way to go!

Thanks.

Comment 44 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Another milestone.

I've now completed the apportionment of South America.

Just one more country to complete!

But it is a sizable one. Several months ago, I completed Canada and USA border and Caribbean and USA South-East.

That means 13 US states have been apportioned:

Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota and Alaska

Florida, Georgia (state in USA), North Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, South Carolina

(Just click on each state to see how it has been divided up)

And I should already have done Hawaii too.

If so, that leave 36 US states still to be apportioned. I'm starting with Eastern USA and finishing with Western USA.

As always, its alphabetic!

Comment 45 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

I knew this was going to be hard work.

Most American counties are too large population-wise for WWC purposes and most cities and towns are too small.

If only they were all like Delaware!

Three counties running north to south: New Castle, pop. 500,265 (census 2000); Kent, pop. 126,697 (census 2000); Sussex, pop. 156,638 (census 2000).

It took about 20 seconds to decide how to divide Delaware into two - (1) New Castle county (2) Kent & Sussex counties.

Usually. though, the larger counties have populations between 800K and 1500K. So they need to be subdivided to reduce them to the 250K-750K sized portions required for the WCP. But although some counties can be broken into regions, there are often no regional population figures and regional boundaries are often rather vague or contradictory.

So the only way to divide the counties up is by mapping them city/town community by city/town community. So it is a slow process. After three days, I've managed to divide up four small states into 22 connection areas. At this rate, I should finish the task by the end of the month, but with little time to spare.

I thought I'd share the division to date. Hopefully I might get some feedback from Nedsters about whether they feel right.

USA - Connecticut: Fairfield county (excluding Gold Coast region)
USA - Connecticut: Fairfield county (Gold Coast region)
USA - Connecticut: Hartford county (Capitol region to north of Hartford & Central Connecticut area) & Litchfield county
USA - Connecticut: Hartford county (Capitol region - Hartford city & areas to south, east & west, excl.. Central Connecticut area)
USA - Connecticut:  Middlesex county & New Haven county (Greater Waterbury area, L. Naugatuck Valley, Meriden & Wallingford)
USA - Connecticut: New Haven county (South Central region excl. Meriden & Wallingford)
USA - Connecticut: New London, Tolland & Windham counties 

USA - Delaware: Kent & Sussex counties
USA - Delaware: New Castle county

USA - District of Columbia:

USA - Maine: Androscoggin, Cumberland, Oxford, Sagadahoc & York counties
USA - Maine: Franklin, Kennebec, Lincoln & counties to north and east

USA - Maryland: Allegany, Frederick, Garrett & Washington counties 
USA - Maryland: Anne Arundel & Calvert counties
USA - Maryland: Baltimore city
USA - Maryland: Baltimore county (Cockeysville-Hunt Valley, Mays Chapel & Towson and areas to east)
USA - Maryland: Baltimore county (Pikesville & areas due south & to west) & Carroll county
USA - Maryland: Caroline, Cecil, Dorchester, Harford, Kent, Queen Anne’s, Somerset, Talbot, Wicomico & Worcester counties
USA - Maryland: Charles county, Princes George’s county (Kettering, Walkers Mill & areas to south)  & St Mary’s county
USA - Maryland: Howard county & Montgomery (Gaithersburg, N. Potomac, Olney, Redland, Travilah, Cloverly & to N & E)
USA - Maryland: Montgomery county (Aspen Hill, Colesville, Fairland, Potomac, Rockville & to south & west)
USA - Maryland: Prince George’s (Bowie, Cheverly, Greater Landover, Lake Arbor, Mitchellville, Woodmore & areas to north)

Comment 46 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

David,

for Maryland, your divisons are culturally and socially valid and work pretty well. Well done!

David Bale said:

I knew this was going to be hard work.

Most American counties are too large population-wise for WWC purposes and most cities and towns are too small.

If only they were all like Delaware!

Three counties running north to south: New Castle, pop. 500,265 (census 2000); Kent, pop. 126,697 (census 2000); Sussex, pop. 156,638 (census 2000).

It took about 20 seconds to decide how to divide Delaware into two - (1) New Castle county (2) Kent & Sussex counties.

Usually. though, the larger counties have populations between 800K and 1500K. So they need to be subdivided to reduce them to the 250K-750K sized portions required for the WCP. But although some counties can be broken into regions, there are often no regional population figures and regional boundaries are often rather vague or contradictory.

So the only way to divide the counties up is by mapping them city/town community by city/town community. So it is a slow process. After three days, I've managed to divide up four small states into 22 connection areas. At this rate, I should finish the task by the end of the month, but with little time to spare.

I thought I'd share the division to date. Hopefully I might get some feedback from Nedsters about whether they feel right.
USA - Connecticut: Fairfield county (excluding Gold Coast region)
USA - Connecticut: Fairfield county (Gold Coast region)
USA - Connecticut: Hartford county (Capitol region to north of Hartford & Central Connecticut area) & Litchfield county
USA - Connecticut: Hartford county (Capitol region - Hartford city & areas to south, east & west, excl.. Central Connecticut area)
USA - Connecticut:  Middlesex county & New Haven county (Greater Waterbury area, L. Naugatuck Valley, Meriden & Wallingford)
USA - Connecticut: New Haven county (South Central region excl. Meriden & Wallingford)
USA - Connecticut: New London, Tolland & Windham counties 

USA - Delaware: Kent & Sussex counties
USA - Delaware: New Castle county

USA - District of Columbia:

USA - Maine: Androscoggin, Cumberland, Oxford, Sagadahoc & York counties
USA - Maine: Franklin, Kennebec, Lincoln & counties to north and east

USA - Maryland: Allegany, Frederick, Garrett & Washington counties 
USA - Maryland: Anne Arundel & Calvert counties
USA - Maryland: Baltimore city
USA - Maryland: Baltimore county (Cockeysville-Hunt Valley, Mays Chapel & Towson and areas to east)
USA - Maryland: Baltimore county (Pikesville & areas due south & to west) & Carroll county
USA - Maryland: Caroline, Cecil, Dorchester, Harford, Kent, Queen Anne’s, Somerset, Talbot, Wicomico & Worcester counties
USA - Maryland: Charles county, Princes George’s county (Kettering, Walkers Mill & areas to south)  & St Mary’s county
USA - Maryland: Howard county & Montgomery (Gaithersburg, N. Potomac, Olney, Redland, Travilah, Cloverly & to N & E)
USA - Maryland: Montgomery county (Aspen Hill, Colesville, Fairland, Potomac, Rockville & to south & west)
USA - Maryland: Prince George’s (Bowie, Cheverly, Greater Landover, Lake Arbor, Mitchellville, Woodmore & areas to north)

Comment 47 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Thanks for your response, Rory.

That's very reassuring.

Comment 48 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

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Comment 49 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

I can only speak for DE, but make sense to me!

good luck, scott

Comment 50 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Thanks, Scott. Getting a bit of feedback is useful and very welcome!

I'll soon add divisions for Massachusetts (very intricate), New Hampshire (very straightforward) and New Jersey (somewhere in between).

Comment 51 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

I am not sure if I fully understand this conversation but here's my cents worth

I absolutely agree that there is an easiest size for citizens to network out of in terms of knowing who wants to connect on what globalsiation crisis issues- I learnt this the hardway when I became a london agent of an amazing newtork from melbourne- they wanted to assemble 75 testifiers to conflicts all around the world and had decided london was the most economical place to fly them all in -as well as these people who were represnting lifelong experiences there were some keynote stars eg Mary Robinson of http://eginitiative.org and former President of Ireland and convenor of womens ex-leaders network; they were assuming that at about 100 pounds an audience seat for this 3 day event they could fill a 700 person hall- we got about 40 payung audience , 50 urgent student etc giveaways as well as the 75 experts- what woul have been easy to fill up n melbourne as an event unlike any other was impossible to break through the noise and busy schedules of londoners n, especially as I was only told about te whole thing about 15 days before it was happening!

so yes somewhere between 200000 and 1 million feels like the maximum size to be geographically in to glue who's who on global ssutainability crises

however the problem with the boudaries as laind out above is yes i am in Mintgomery county but no I dont really know anyne in that geographical area because essentially its north of washington DC and for better of for wirse all network meetings in the area have mass - and are convened in DC - which brinhg to the catch 22 as DC wouldnt be quite as bad as lomndon for the audience challenge example above but it would be pretty nearly as bad- I have seen conference organsisers on other subjevcts I though earth moving truly struggle to get people to a 3 day event in DC

Comment 52 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

That's an interesting perspective on staging large meetings, Chris. The larger the urban area, the smaller the percentage of the population of that area likely to participate about any given issue. And you make the very plausible suggestion that this may have something to do with the number of competing issues.

Some years ago I lived in a village in the UK with a population of about 300 where there were frequent road accidents involving articulated lorries losing control on one of the two steep hills leading down into the village high street - which also happened to be a stretch of single carriageway trunk road leading to one the country's major ports - and then ploughing into one of the houses or shops there.

There was a campaign for a by-pass to take the trunk route (and the heavy lorries) around the village, not through it. The entire village attended the demonstrations in support of this cause. In a city, you could mobilise a much large demo, but it might involve just 1% or 2% of the population.

But deciding optimal venues in this way is chiefly an issue only for top down activities and organisations.

The WCP must operate bottom up. As Chris says, in an area like Montgomery County in Maryland USA, which is predominately part of a much larger metropolitan area, there may well be, socially speaking, a natural centre of gravity outside the boundaries of the area itself. But within each area of approximately half a million population size, there will be a dozen or two smaller local centres with which residents can more readily identify. In the case of Montgomery County, there are some larger urban areas with populations of 40-80K, such as Rockville, Potomac, Bethesda, Gaithersburg and Silver Spring. But there are also many much smaller districts, such as those that collectively make up Chevy Chase or Kensington.

In a truly bottom-up approach, every individual should be empowered to initiate action on their own account in their own home district, not just in response to initiatives from above. That's why starting at the bottom, with initiatives in every small locality could potentially work much better than trying to engineer one large overall campaign or cause.

The Kindling thread has been a little quiet of late. I think I better post there some ideas I have of how a team of "human kindling" might start up a lot of small fires leading eventually to one large conflagration.

Comment 53 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

These are the divisions I've listed for Massachusetts, New Hampshire & New Jersey. Comments would be very welcome:

USA - Massachusetts: Barnstable & Plymouth counties
USA - Massachusetts: Berkshire & Hampden counties
USA - Massachusetts: Bristol, Dukes & Nantucket counties
USA - Massachusetts: Essex county (excluding Lynn, Lynnfield, Peabody & Saugus)
USA - Massachusetts: Essex (Lynnfield & adj. towns), Middlesex (Medford, Melrose & adj. towns) & Suffolk (excl. Boston)
USA - Massachusetts: Franklin county, Hampshire county & Worcester county (New Braintree, Oakham & all N of Worcester)
USA - Massachusetts: Middlesex county (Ayer, Bedford, Maynard, Townsend, Tyngsborough, Wilmington & adjoining towns)
USA - Massachusetts: Middlesex county (Arlington. Framingham, Lexington, Waltham, Wayland, Weston & towns to south)
USA - Massachusetts: Norfolk county
USA - Massachusetts: Suffolk county (Boston)
USA - Massachusetts: Worcester county (N & W Brookfield, Shrewsbury, Southboro‘, Spencer, Westboro‘, Worcester & to S)


USA - New Hampshire: Belknap, Carroll, Merrimack, Rockingham & Strafford counties
USA - New Hampshire: Cheshire, Coos, Grafton, Hillsborough & Sullivan  counties


USA - New Jersey: Atlantic & Cape May counties
USA - New Jersey: Bergen county (Bergenfield, Fairlawn, New Milford, Paramus, River Edge, Tenafly & municipalities to N.)
USA - New Jersey: Bergen county (all areas to south of Bergenfield, Fairlawn, New Milford, Paramus, River Edge & Tenafly)
USA - New Jersey: Burlington county
USA - New Jersey: Camden county
USA - New Jersey: Cumberland, Gloucester & Salem counties
USA - New Jersey: Essex county (Maplewood, Millburn, Montclair, Orange, South Orange & municipalities to S incl. Newark)
USA - New Jersey: Essex county (Cedar Grove, Livingston, Verona, West Orange & municipalities to N) & Passaic county
USA - New Jersey: Hudson county
USA - New Jersey: Hunterdon, Mercer & Warren counties
USA - New Jersey: Middlesex county (Cranbury, Monroe & all municipalities adjoining either) & Somerset county 
USA - New Jersey: Middlesex county (Milltown, North Brunswick, Sayreville & municipalities to north)
USA - New Jersey: Monmouth county
USA - New Jersey: Morris & Sussex counties
USA - New Jersey: Ocean county
USA - New Jersey: Union county

Comment 54 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Hello David Bale,

Thank you for sending this to me. Sorry I do not have anything to add. Our focus is helping build capacity in developing countries - including shipping used computers and having teams visit them to help.

Best,

timothy

David Bale said:

These are the divisions I've listed for Massachusetts, New Hampshire & New Jersey. Comments would be very welcome:

USA - Massachusetts: Barnstable & Plymouth counties
USA - Massachusetts: Berkshire & Hampden counties
USA - Massachusetts: Bristol, Dukes & Nantucket counties
USA - Massachusetts: Essex county (excluding Lynn, Lynnfield, Peabody & Saugus)
USA - Massachusetts: Essex (Lynnfield & adj. towns), Middlesex (Medford, Melrose & adj. towns) & Suffolk (excl. Boston)
USA - Massachusetts: Franklin county, Hampshire county & Worcester county (New Braintree, Oakham & all N of Worcester)
USA - Massachusetts: Middlesex county (Ayer, Bedford, Maynard, Townsend, Tyngsborough, Wilmington & adjoining towns)
USA - Massachusetts: Middlesex county (Arlington. Framingham, Lexington, Waltham, Wayland, Weston & towns to south)
USA - Massachusetts: Norfolk county
USA - Massachusetts: Suffolk county (Boston)
USA - Massachusetts: Worcester county (N & W Brookfield, Shrewsbury, Southboro‘, Spencer, Westboro‘, Worcester & to S)


USA - New Hampshire: Belknap, Carroll, Merrimack, Rockingham & Strafford counties
USA - New Hampshire: Cheshire, Coos, Grafton, Hillsborough & Sullivan  counties


USA - New Jersey: Atlantic & Cape May counties
USA - New Jersey: Bergen county (Bergenfield, Fairlawn, New Milford, Paramus, River Edge, Tenafly & municipalities to N.)
USA - New Jersey: Bergen county (all areas to south of Bergenfield, Fairlawn, New Milford, Paramus, River Edge & Tenafly)
USA - New Jersey: Burlington county
USA - New Jersey: Camden county
USA - New Jersey: Cumberland, Gloucester & Salem counties
USA - New Jersey: Essex county (Maplewood, Millburn, Montclair, Orange, South Orange & municipalities to S incl. Newark)
USA - New Jersey: Essex county (Cedar Grove, Livingston, Verona, West Orange & municipalities to N) & Passaic county
USA - New Jersey: Hudson county
USA - New Jersey: Hunterdon, Mercer & Warren counties
USA - New Jersey: Middlesex county (Cranbury, Monroe & all municipalities adjoining either) & Somerset county 
USA - New Jersey: Middlesex county (Milltown, North Brunswick, Sayreville & municipalities to north)
USA - New Jersey: Monmouth county
USA - New Jersey: Morris & Sussex counties
USA - New Jersey: Ocean county
USA - New Jersey: Union county

Comment 55 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

Thanks for responding, Timothy.

The intention is that each line (in these lists) should describe a geographical area with a population of approximately half a million people. Each area will be linked at random to an area with a similar sized population in one of the world's economically less developed countries. The two areas will be invited to make contact, cooperate, collaborate and exchange. The idea is that there should be a planned and comprehensive attempt to tackle world poverty by breaking the problem down into bite-size pieces and drawing attention to places in the world that might otherwise be overlooked.

Some areas might like to contact your organisation, Timothy, (World Computer Exchange) and support you or seek your help in relation to the problems of the particular World Connectory area allocated to them. Others might be inspired to try to emulate your efforts.

The reason I've asked people who live in US states I'm currently listing is twofold.

Firstly, since more members of Ned come from the USA than any other country, I thought it would be helpful to me to involve Nedsters residing in the areas I am currently listing. The information I'm basing my divisions on is all found on the internet and may not always be accurate and complete. Sometimes I'm having to make (hopefully) intelligent guesses. Sometimes I may be linking places that would be better linked in a different way.

Secondly, even when the information I access is accurate, I am liable to make errors in my listings. This is not simply due to typos, but also to the auto "corrections" that my computer makes, often without my realising. This frequently leads to terrible distortions of place-names, that I may overlook and yet which would be immediately obvious to someone with local knowledge of the area.

So, thanks very much to everyone reading through and/or commenting on the listings I'm posting here.

Comment 56 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

And I can now add New York state listing too:

USA - New York: Albany, Greene, Schoharie & Ulster counties
USA - New York: Allegany, Cattaraugus, Chautauqua, Chemung, Livingston, Steuben & Wyoming counties
USA - New York: Broome, Chenango, Delaware & Oisego counties 
USA - New York: Cayuga,, Ontario, Schuyler, Seneca, Tioga, Tompkins, Wayne & Yates counties
USA - New York: Clinton, Essex, Franklin, Fulton, Hamilton, Montgomery, St. Lawrence, Warren & Washington counties
USA - New York: Columbia, Rensselaer, Saratoga & Schenectady counties
USA - New York: Dutchess & Putnam counties
USA - New York: Erie county (Buffalo city, Cheektowaga, Depew, Lackawanna, Sloan & West Seneca)
USA - New York: Erie county (excluding Buffalo city, Cheektowaga, Depew, Lackawanna, Sloan & West Seneca)
USA - New York: Genesee, Niagara & Orleans counties, plus Monroe county (excl. Rochester and adj areas )
USA - New York: Herkimer, Jefferson, Lewis, Oneida & Oswego counties 
USA - New York: Madison & Onondaga counties
USA - New York: Monroe county (Brighton, E. Rochester, Fairport, Gates, Greece, Irondequoit, Penfield, Pittsford, Rochester)
USA - New York: Nassau (Hempstead excl Elmont, Floral Pk, Franklin Sq, Garden C, Hemps Village, W Hemps & Uniondale)
USA - New York: Nassau county (Glen Cove, N. Hempstead & Hempstead - Hempstead Village, W Hempstead & Uniondale)
USA - New York: Nassau county (Long Beach & Oyster Bay) & Suffolk county (Babylon)
USA - New York: New York city - Bronx (Community Boards 1, 2, 3, 9 & 10)
USA - New York: New York city - Bronx (Community Boards 4, 5, 7 & 8))
USA - New York: New York city - Bronx (Community Boards 6, 11 & 12) & Westchester county (Yonkers)
USA - New York: New York city - Brooklyn (Community Boards 1,  2, 3, 4, & 6)
USA - New York: New York city - Brooklyn (Community Boards 5, 15, 16, & 18)
USA - New York: New York city - Brooklyn (Community Boards 7, 11, 12 & 13)
USA - New York: New York city - Brooklyn (Community Boards 8, 9, 14, & 17)
USA - New York: New York city - Manhattan (above 59th Street)
USA - New York: New York city - Manhattan (below 34th Street)
USA - New York: New York city - Manhattan (34th - 59th Street)
USA - New York: New York city - Queens (Community Boards 1, 2, 3 & 4)
USA - New York: New York city - Queens (Community Boards 5, 6, 8 & 9)
USA - New York: New York city - Queens (Community Boards 7, 11 & 13)
USA - New York: New York city - Queens (Community Boards 10, 12 & 14)
USA - New York: Orange & Sullivan counties
USA - New York: Rockland county & Westchester county (Cortlandt, Greenburgh, Ossining, Peekskill & Sleepy Hollow)
USA - New York: Suffolk county (Brookhaven, E. Hampton, Fire Island, Shelter Island, Southampton, Southold & Smithtown)
USA - New York: Suffolk county (Huntington, Islip & Riverhead)
USA - New York: New York city - Brooklyn (Community Board 10) & Staten Island
USA - New York: Westchester county (excluding Cortlandt, Greenburgh, Ossining, Peekskill, Sleepy Hollow & Yonkers)

I've put in bold the two areas in which I myself lived from 1967 to 1969. I'm fairly confident that those two areas are listed accurately and make sense.

What about the rest?

Comment 57 on Progress with Apportionment & the Nonprofitslist

David Bale said:

And I can now add New York state listing too:

Hi David.... I noticed some miss pellings around Manhattan/Manhatton... Also in the very first line...Albany County...If that includes the city of Albany perhaps it should stand alone as that is a very populated area and I am sure meets your target population per area on it's own.

Lois